Quick Weight Loss Tips: July 2009

Friday, July 31, 2009

[After Weight Loss Surgery] Digest Number 1925

There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Protein for Dieters
From: Victoria

2a. What's sufficient protein?
From: Victoria
2b. Re: What's sufficient protein?
From: lisar320

3. Welcome new members - 7 today!
From: Victoria

4. The 2000 calories a day controversy, resolved...
From: Victoria

5a. Re: Thirst
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com
5b. Re: Thirst
From: Ellie Thomas
5c. Re: Thirst
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com

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1. Protein for Dieters
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:44 am ((PDT))

Written by Mary_RD on Jul 30, 2009 from http://caloriecount.about.com/

Do you eat enough protein to offset your body's daily needs? Some people do not. In the United States, we often eat more protein than we need with our large portions and meat-eating ways. Still, low-calorie dieters may be falling short on protein, and it's time for a protein check-up.

Protein "R" Us

Every cell of your body is made of protein - skin, hair, muscles, organs, enzymes, hormones, blood, antibodies, body fluids - name 'em. Protein also provides energy when calories are in short supply. When you are in the weight-loss mode, some of your protein is wasted as fuel.

Dietary protein comes from animal foods like eggs, meat, poultry, and fish. Protein is also in legumes (dried beans, lentils and soy), dairy products (milk, yogurt, cheese, and whey), and in nuts, seeds, grains, and a bit in vegetables too. Animal proteins are "high-quality", meaning they provide all the raw materials needed for cell synthesis. Plant proteins are not high quality because they are missing component amino acids here and there. But the quality of plant protein improves when eaten as part of a balanced diet with enough calories for weight maintenance. Vegetarians must make an effort to get enough high-quality protein.

Protein Requirements

For adults, the Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein is 0.8 grams per kilogram (kg) of body weight per day. (2.2 pounds = one kg) The requirement is enough to offset protein loss in a healthy adult on an adequate calorie intake. It also assumes that high-quality protein is consumed.

Low calorie dieters are advised to eat 1.0 grams per kg to offset protein that is wasted for fuel. Furthermore, people who engage in significant endurance and strength-training activities need 1.2 to 1.7 grams of protein per kg/day.
Let's review:
How much protein does a 154 lb (70 kg) person on a weight loss diet with a cardio- and strength-training program need?
Answer: At 1.0 g – 1.2 g per kg per day, our reference person needs a daily intake of 70 to 84 grams of protein.

Grams vs. Percents

The Calorie Count Nutrition Report displays protein in actual grams and as a percent of total calories. Expert groups like the National Academy of Sciences and the USDA recommend energy nutrients (carbohydrate, protein, fat, and alcohol) in terms of percent of total calories. The usual recommendation for protein is 10 to 35 percent of total calories. That is quite a range but it shows how the body is capable of burning different combinations of fuel.

But is a protein intake of 10%, 15%, or 20% of total calories right for you? Let's check again:

At 1600 calories a day (recommended for our reference person to lose one pound per week), protein as a percent of total calories translates into these grams: (Consider one gram of protein provides 4 calories.)

10% of total calories = 40 grams of protein
15% of total calories = 60 grams of protein
20% of total calories = 80 grams of protein
25% of total calories = 100 grams of protein
30% of total calories = 120 grams of protein
And so, our 154 lb (70 kg) person on a 1600 calorie diet with exercise needs at least 20% of calories from protein to satisfy protein requirements. In fact, recent research from the University of Illinois-Champaign showed that, when combined with exercise, a diet with 30% of calories from protein enhanced weight loss and maintained lean tissue better than a diet containing 15% protein. (See the abstract from the Journal of Nutrition.)

The bottom line

A good distribution of total calories for a dieter is 20% from protein, 50% from carbohydrate and 30% from fat. Low carbohydrate dieters aim for 30% from protein, 40% from carbohydrate and 30% from fat because they burn more protein (and fat) than carbohydrate for fuel.

Realize that one gram of carbohydrate provides 4 calories, one gram of fat provides 9 calories, and one gram of alcohol provides 7 calories. Use those numbers, along with your Calorie Count Nutrition Report, to see if you are meeting your protein needs.

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2a. What's sufficient protein?
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:15 am ((PDT))

Excess protein may tax the kidneys as they remove nitrogen, a protein waste product, and a significant amount of water as well. If you drink enough water and your diet is otherwise balanced, excess protein is not likely to harm you.

The FDA says you must meet calorie requirements (2,000 a day for adult women, 2,500 for adult men) with enough carbohydrates to prevent protein from being used for energy. They break it down this way:

60-65 % of total calories in complex carbohydrates (complex are whole wheat, grains, non-starch veggies)

17-22% of total calories from protein (meat, fish, dairy, nuts, beans, soy, whey.

15-20% of total calories from fats [mostly monosaturates and unsaturates (peanut, canola, vegetable) and fish oils (omega 3)]

But I personally take in about 40% of my total calories in complex carbs (sprouted grain bread and low sugar fresh fruit and veggies) and 40% in proteins.

-Vic
group founder

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2b. Re: What's sufficient protein?
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:59 pm ((PDT))

Hi Victoria,
Thanks for two amazing posts on Protein. I was told by our group dietician to eat at least 70 grams of protein per day. She said I should be eating a high protein, low fat, low carb diet. She also said each meal (4 of them) should be 3-4oz of protein & a veggie. The 2 snacks per day are used to increase protein intake. In addition, I must exercise.
I've been keeping a food diary since mid-July. I've been able to eat at least 70 grams of protein per day on most days. I know I eat less fat and most of the fat comes from cheese and red meat. I also eat a bean dish that I made with cans of Black Beans, Kidney Beans & Chickpees (all Goya low-salt) along with 1 sauteed onion (sauteed in Olive Oil)and a splash of balsamic vinegar. I seasoned with Mrs. Dash because there's no salt. I eat the beans because I need more fiber in my diet since my WLS on 3/25/09. I can count on one hand the times I've eaten cake and it's always 1/2 of a 1/2 of a slice. I drink plenty of water and also skim milk. I don't like the way soda makes me feel and they told me not to drink it anyway.
I also exercise. I started a new consulting project this week and I walk 20 minutes to the office in the morning (across NYC) and take a crosstown bus back to the train station. Some nites I also do a 1 mile (20 minute) Walk at Home program.

Lisa
New Jersey
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--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@...> wrote:
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> Excess protein may tax the kidneys as they remove nitrogen, a protein waste product, and a significant amount of water as well. If you drink enough water and your diet is otherwise balanced, excess protein is not likely to harm you.
>
> The FDA says you must meet calorie requirements (2,000 a day for adult women, 2,500 for adult men) with enough carbohydrates to prevent protein from being used for energy. They break it down this way:
>
> 60-65 % of total calories in complex carbohydrates (complex are whole wheat, grains, non-starch veggies)
>
> 17-22% of total calories from protein (meat, fish, dairy, nuts, beans, soy, whey.
>
> 15-20% of total calories from fats [mostly monosaturates and unsaturates (peanut, canola, vegetable) and fish oils (omega 3)]
>
> But I personally take in about 40% of my total calories in complex carbs (sprouted grain bread and low sugar fresh fruit and veggies) and 40% in proteins.
>
> -Vic
> group founder
>

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3. Welcome new members - 7 today!
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:45 am ((PDT))

Welcome new comers to our group. Please post to introduce yourselves, ask your questions, make comments, etc. Check the left-side column for our Files section, helpful Links, post a Photo or 2. Every new member gets a copy of "Pouch Rules for Dummies" (sorry, I didn't name it that), which contains information about a 'pouch test', you may have heard of that.

We hope you find this group useful. Our members are very helpful and friendly, so join right in, please.

My thanks to all our members for making this group a success :)

Best,
-Vic
group founder

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4. The 2000 calories a day controversy, resolved...
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:50 am ((PDT))

>>THE 2,000 CALORIE PER DAY MISCONCEPTION FOR WOMEN
How It Messes Up Your Diet, And How To Calculate What Your True Calorie Intake Should Be

By Nadia Giordana
'Borrowed' from http://thinkingskinny.com/

For the purpose of this argument, I'm referring to women and the USDA recommended calorie guidelines. We tend to forget that they are simply guidelines. Other factors that can affect your daily calorie needs are age, gender, and activity level. You can find dozens of websites that will help you zero in on your specific calorie needs but I've included a workable outline here for women using myself as an example.

I am a petite, mature woman, 5′ 2" tall with small bones. My calorie requirements are lower than those of a younger, taller woman with, let's say a medium to large frame, yet we seem to focus on that nebulous number, 2,000 calories across the board for all women (2,500 for men).

Question: I know I've been eating around 2,000 calories a day so why is it that I've gained so much weight?

Answer: If you continue to eat 2,000 calories per day with your sedentary lifestyle, you will soon weigh 200 pounds, I can guarantee it. You are taking in more calories than you are burning each day.

Here is a formula to calculate what your calorie intake should be:

If you are sedentary: you work a desk job and get little or no additional exercise—multiply your desired weight (the weight you want to be) times the number 10. This will give you the number of calories you need each day to maintain that goal weight once it is achieved. Since you currently weigh more than that, eating only the number of calories needed to maintain a lower weight will, steadfastly result in a loss of weight, until balance is achieved.

If you are lightly active: you get some exercise only 1-3 days per week and it's not strenuous—multiply your desired weight by 13.

If you are moderately active: you get some exercise on weekends or about 10-15 (up to 30) minutes 3-5 days a week—multiply your desired weight times the number 15.

If you get vigorous exercise regularly: you have a physically demanding job or you exercise 60 minutes 5-7 days a week—multiply your desired weight times 17.

The highest level of fitness activity, that of an experienced athlete, uses a multiplication of your desired weight times 19.

The preceding information is a guideline only, and for general purposes, one of the first four levels will apply to almost anyone reading this.

The formula works like this:
Desired weight, 150 pounds
Sedentary: 150 x 10 = 1,500 cal/day
Light activity: 150 x 13 = 1,950 cal/day
Moderately active: 150 x 15 = 2,250 cal/day
Vigorous exercise: 150 x 17 = 2,550 cal/day
Athlete: 150 x 19 = 2,850 cal/day

Desired weight, 125 pounds
Sedentary: 125 x 10 = 1,250 cal/day
Light Activity: 125 x 13 = 1,625 cal/day
Moderately active: 125 x 15 = 1,875 cal/day
Vigorous exercise: 125 x 17 = 2,125 cal/day
Athlete: 125 x 19 = 2,375 cal/day

As you can see, a woman of my size cannot eat at a 2,000 calorie per day level without inevitably gaining weight, unless I were to significantly and consistently increase my level of physical activity (something I have done in recent months).

About 1,200 calories is the minimum number per day for the average person to fulfill necessary nutritional needs. True, you can eat less than that for short periods of time and lose weight without harm, but it is also likely to lead to bingeing and other harmful habits.

A better way is to find a natural balance you can live with. I have become accustomed to eating a 1,300 to 1,500-calorie-a-day diet, making sure I include foods that satisfy me nutritionally, physically and emotionally. I never feel like I am on a diet.<<

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5a. Re: Thirst
Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com saraamy1985
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:12 pm ((PDT))

I had my WLS on June 8th. Since then I have been thirsty 24/7. Nothing I
drink quenches my thirst. I drink at least 2 liters a day and I am still
thirsty. Is this normal??? As a diabetic when I was not well controlled I
didn't drink as much as I do now. This is not making sense to me HELP.
Judy
PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.

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5b. Re: Thirst
Posted by: "Ellie Thomas" desertblondee1@yahoo.com desertblondee1
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:42 pm ((PDT))

Feel lucky you are thirstey...Some cant hardly keep water down. But with the heat and all...water is a good thing! Good luck...Hope you have a blessed day. Are you Blood sugars under control...you know after surgery things change???? Just curious

Ellie

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From: Cheeks7514@aol.com <Cheeks7514@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Thirst
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:09 PM

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5c. Re: Thirst
Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com saraamy1985
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:54 pm ((PDT))

Ellie
YES I am very happy to say that my blood sugar is under control. I
am on an insulin pump and only use about 37 units a day. This is compared
to 140+ units a day before surgery. I have been diabetic for more then 26
years so I don't expect to be cured but I am very very excited about what
has happened so far. Before surgery my blood glucose levels were at least in
the 200's many times higher. This caused a lot of health issues.
Judy

PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.

In a message dated 7/30/2009 5:43:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
desertblondee1@yahoo.com writes:

Feel lucky you are thirstey...Some cant hardly keep water down. But with
the heat and all...water is a good thing! Good luck...Hope you have a blessed
day. Are you Blood sugars under control...you know after surgery things
change???? Just curious

Ellie

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[Serious-Weight-Watchers] Digest Number 12121

There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: WW Magazine Deal
From: Janet Kilpatrick

2a. Weighing in
From: Maret Turner
2b. Re: Weighing in
From: Jennifer Brown

3a. Birthday
From: CLAUDIA
3b. Re: Birthday
From: Jennifer Brown

4a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/30/2009, 12:15 p
From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
4b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/30/2009, 12:
From: mike dalpee

5a. Diabetes
From: Faye Ridpath
5b. Re: Diabetes
From: CLAUDIA
5c. Re: Diabetes
From: Faye Ridpath

6. Latest Photos to Compare
From: galen_oea

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1a. Re: WW Magazine Deal
Posted by: "Janet Kilpatrick" pinkie1153@yahoo.com pinkie1153
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:19 am ((PDT))

Yes - whoever posted this link - that you. I did the two year deal - and it is a HUGE savings.

Janet

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From: Darcye9 <darcye9@optonline.net>
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:04:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

I got mine too. Didn't we do this deal last year too. Thank you to whoever it is keeping us posted:)

Darcy in CT
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy D.
To: Serious-Weight- Watchers@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight- Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

thank you so much for posting this. i got 4 - yes four - years for $20.00!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
a great deal!!!!!!!! !

i was already subscribed, but it let me put it in as a "renewal"

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From: Tory Klementsen
To: Serious-Weight- Watchers@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight- Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

Hey thanks Cindie! I just subscribed!
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> I haven't tried it because I already subscribe, but if anyone is looking
> for a cheap subscription to WW magazine, you might be interested.
>
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2a. Weighing in
Posted by: "Maret Turner" garfy713@gmail.com krazykatzz13
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:08 am ((PDT))

Good morning,
Reporting in that I lost 1.6 this week.
I am ok for goal.
I am 8 below goal w/doc excused.
Hugs,
Maret
232/165/157

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2b. Re: Weighing in
Posted by: "Jennifer Brown" mazdalady9@yahoo.com mazdalady9
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:42 am ((PDT))

Good Job!
Have a Passionette Day!!!
Jennifer Brown, Independent Consultant
We take Visa, Mastercard, and Discover. Email and phone orders accepted!!
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From: Maret Turner <garfy713@gmail.com>
To: TopsLoop2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:22:05 AM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Weighing in

Good morning,
Reporting in that I lost 1.6 this week.
I am ok for goal.
I am 8 below goal w/doc excused.
Hugs,
Maret
232/165/157

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3a. Birthday
Posted by: "CLAUDIA" clewing1953@sbcglobal.net clewing1953@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:11 am ((PDT))

Yesterday was my birthday and I made it through with only dipping into
my weekly points a little (this is my fourth week and I've only used
my weekly points a total of 2.5 points before yesterday) and that was
for the cake. I am hoping I can find someone to take the rest of this
cake, as my daughter is on WW with me and my husband is diabetic, and
we don't need this cake sitting here in the kitchen!

I ate some of my favorites, just made smart choices as far as the
serving size. I had a sausage pattie with my Fiber One pancakes at
brunch, ate extremely small bites to make it last, rather than wolfing
it down in two bites. I ate a yogurt for lunch, and another one later
as I am on antibiotics and they are tearing up my stomach and
intestines. I bought a new box of Weight Watcher's English Toffee ice
cream bars at the store, so had to have one of them, too.

For supper I had shrimp cocktail, steamed snow crab legs, baked
potato, an ear of corn (both using the light butter; until my points
drop more I'm sticking with that), steamed asparagus (had three
steamers going at once last night-lol), then the cake with Breyer's
Free ice cream. So that cake was the only thing I really did wrong
last night. I am so proud of myself! Every step like this makes me
more empowered to stick with this new life!

Claudia

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3b. Re: Birthday
Posted by: "Jennifer Brown" mazdalady9@yahoo.com mazdalady9
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:48 am ((PDT))

Hello Claudia,
Eating the cake wasnt wrong by any means. You counted it which is what counts. GOOD JOB
Have a Passionette Day!!!
Jennifer Brown, Independent Consultant
We take Visa, Mastercard, and Discover. Email and phone orders accepted!!
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From: CLAUDIA <clewing1953@sbcglobal.net>
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:31:07 PM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Birthday

Claudia

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4a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/30/2009, 12:15 p
Posted by: "Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com" Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:56 am ((PDT))

Reminder from: Serious-Weight-Watchers Yahoo! Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Serious-Weight-Watchers/cal

Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
Thursday July 30, 2009
12:15 pm - 12:30 pm
(This event repeats every day.)

Notes:
Did you know that daily exercise:

Can help to reverse pre-diabetes?
Can reduce your cholesterol and triglycerides?
Can increase your HDL, the good cholesterol, and lower your LDL, the bad cholesterol?
Can strengthen your heart and lungs?
May prevent osteoporosis?
Can reduce your risk of stroke?
Can help you sleep better?
Can help with depression?
Can lengthen your life?
Can help promote and maintain weight loss?

What exercise did you do today?

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4b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/30/2009, 12:
Posted by: "mike dalpee" mdalpee@cogeco.ca leslieannechapman
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:55 pm ((PDT))

My workout for today
\17 minutes on the upright bike - 2.24 miles
70 minutes on the treadmill - 3.03 miles
10 minutes on the recumbant bike - 1.85 miles
7 minutes on the arc trainer - .30 miles

Weigh in today, I lost 2.5 lbs. I lost the weight I gained last week. I am now 253.2 lbs. Only 123 lbs to go!
Leslie in Ontario

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5a. Diabetes
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:52 pm ((PDT))

My diabetes really is starting to suck! If I eat pretty good but have things
like 100 calorie packs and cookies etc. etc. well it doesn't seem to hurt me
as long as I am also on plan with WW points wise and not going over but at
the same time, I know those aren't the best choices plus none of those
things sustain a person very long so of course I'm ready to eat something
again almost as soon as I finished that.

But if I make better food choices, and eat the way I'm sure WW intends (I
mean I know they say you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay on
points and follow the healthy guidelines, I'm sure they intend for you to
make healthy food choices with your points and not a bunch of junk. I mean
sure a person could have a whole pizza or a big bag of candy for the day and
still be on points but that's not what they intend) like I did today (I've
eaten lots of veggies today, wheat bread, nuts) then I have a sugar low.
This is my 2nd one in two weeks. Usually if I have anything abnormal it's a
high but lately it's been right where it should be until I started making
better choices the past two weeks. Like less diet soda, more water (funny
when I stopped drinking so much diet soda my headaches have been
considerablly less too), more veggies less 100 calories packs etc. It's
frustrating that if I take care of myself I have adverse results and if I
let myself go, I have better results (sugar wise) I hate lows. This low
isn't as bad as last week's- only borderline low cuz I caught it right away
this time so took a glucose tablet. I still feel slightly shaky but not near
as bad as the low I had last week.

I see my doctor 8/3 so I think I'll ask if maybe I should lower my dose. I
only take insulin once a day- 40 units. And no other diabetic meds. I used
to take insulin twice a day and metformin at night but last appointment he
took me off the metformin and night insulin cuz my numbers were so good. I
guess I could always call him now but since it's so close to my appointment
I can probably just wait for the appointment. I'll just have to remember to
keep my testing kit with me at work now.

Oh yeah this is my biggest fear you guys! I have two nights a week where I
work 3rd shift so I'm by myself. And so far nothing has happened where I
pass out or anything I just get shaky really bad. But my fear is something
worse happening now that my sugar lows may be getting common (ok maybe I'm
being paranoid I mean it has only been two incidents thus far) and me being
all by myself no one would know till my relief comes in the next day. And
even then, it would be awhile because I keep the door locked at night for
security. And we don't have keys we just have to knock. I know I'm probably
worrying for nothing but now it's a fear.

I *am* happy to report that unlike last week where I went into panic (some
people that know about the sugar low incident that I wrote this too I don't
think I shared this part with, I know I did to some but some I felt
embararrased by what I did and was worried I'd be judged but it had been so
so long since I've had a low I paniced) and instead of doing the sensible
thing and taking a glucose tablet I started eating anything I could find
with sugar in it- then I ate so much sugar that I had a high! Plus I gained
a pound this week cuz of it. So this time I was much more sensible and just
took the glucose tablet and am about to test again to see if I'm back to
normal yet. I'm shaking a little still. So I'm not sure.

I was finally being excepting of having a chronic disease and having to
shoot myself in the stomach then I start having incidents like this and I
want to cry! I'm sorry some people loved my post last week when I was
sharing this story some even told me I was inspiring. Now I'm a downer. I'm
sorry. I'm just really really feeling down in the dumps about having this
today because it feels like when I take care of myself and do what I should
I get punished (the sugar lows) I know it's good to take care of myself,
don't get me wrong. It's just frustrating!

Just like it's frustrating that the healthy foods and healthier choices on
restaurants cost way more than good for you foods!

Ok sorry I was a downer. I don't have these poor me pity parties very often
just sometimes I get a little depressed about my condition.

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5b. Re: Diabetes
Posted by: "CLAUDIA" clewing1953@sbcglobal.net clewing1953@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:32 pm ((PDT))

Here's hoping for no more episodes before your appointment on the
third. Will you have blood work before then for the doctor to see your
numbers when you see him/her? I bet they will be lower, and he might
lower your insulin even more. I forget, are you type 1 or type 2? If
you are type 2, you may even be able to come off insulin with diet and
oral meds, and who knows, maybe one day no meds at all!

Look at this as a victory and not something to panic over. In the
meantime, keep making wise choices, but keep something healthy on hand
to help boost your sugar if you feel low blood sugar coming on.

Claudia

http://www.myspace.com/clewing

http://classiccreationsbyclaudia.blogspot.com/

http://facebook.com/claudia.ewing

http://groups.myspace.com/claudiasrecipes

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5c. Re: Diabetes
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:00 pm ((PDT))

Claudia,

It's really weird cuz my doctor *always* wants me to get blood work 2 days
before my appointments. But this time he didn't give me a prescription to do
it, so I called the office to ask if he just forgot and she put me on hold
to ask him and came back and said no he doesn't want me to do it this time.
Weird since he always does. I wonder why not this time? Especially cuz we
had also changed my cholestrol meds cuz I also have high cholesterol and we
can't get the numbers on that to come down. Sometimes he does blood work in
his office maybe he just plans to do that this time.

I am type II. I used to just regulated with diet and meds but we couldn't
get the numbers to come down no matter what meds and dosages he tried so
finally he said he was out of things to try and put me on insulin.

~~~Faye~~~

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM, CLAUDIA <clewing1953@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> Here's hoping for no more episodes before your appointment on the
> third. Will you have blood work before then for the doctor to see your
> numbers when you see him/her? I bet they will be lower, and he might
> lower your insulin even more. I forget, are you type 1 or type 2? If
> you are type 2, you may even be able to come off insulin with diet and
> oral meds, and who knows, maybe one day no meds at all!
>
>
>
> Look at this as a victory and not something to panic over. In the
> meantime, keep making wise choices, but keep something healthy on hand
> to help boost your sugar if you feel low blood sugar coming on.
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> Claudia
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Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:56 pm ((PDT))

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Thursday, July 30, 2009

[After Weight Loss Surgery] Digest Number 1924

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
From: Jane Doe
1b. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
From: Karen Cortez
1c. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
From: Jane Doe

2a. Re: bulimia and anorexia after surgery
From: Tracie

3. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them aft...
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com

4a. Re: finally posted and am on the brink of weight gain
From: meaguilar69

Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
Posted by: "Jane Doe" jane_doe1966@yahoo.com jane_doe1966
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:14 am ((PDT))

I have to take B 12 and others because I am low but darn not like you are. My problem with any thing like that was protein I could not get enough as we all know to well we have to drink that nasty stuff however I am a hard head and did I my very best to avoid at all cost the protein drinks all together YES THAT'S ALL ON ME lol.. and lost about 50 % of my hair and the doc was secondes away from doing a feeding tube. I took care of a man who has a feeding tube and you know that was MORE then enough to do better with that but again that was me not wanting to drink all that stuff YUCK.... I did find a few different things to replace the drinks one is called a protine shot not sure who makes it looks like its in a test tube.. NASTY but its not very much so if you can get it down your good. The other stuff is Isopure its like koolaid and I love it.. NO nasty make you have the shivers when you drink it. Its about 4.50 a bottle at GNC and they have like 5
different ones anyway.. I like them half that cals and NO carbs and 40G of protine,,, I drinkk one of them a day and I am ok... Not woonderful I know he would like for me to bring it up more but it is with in normal low normal but still normal. I hope you feeeling better soon..

Donna

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez <kikae1@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Karen Cortez <kikae1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:07 AM

I too have had bad luck so to speak. 2 weeks after the WLS I was hospitalized for my first kidney stone blockage. That was over 6 years ago. I still have regular stones so much that I am now on disability. I am also very anemic and am currently having iron infusions, my vit d is bottomed out, my b12 bottomed out, and more... I understand about changing the decision if you could go back in time. My hubby is also upset that I have been sick all these years. I had surgery on 2/19/03 weighing in at 322 lbs. I went down to 198 lbs about 3 years out, but since I have gotten worse with the stones and lethargy I have gained and now weigh 260 lbs. I can not seem to get the energy to move so nothing happens with the weight. I was anemic a year ago, but the doc said it was due to a "heavy flow" LOL. I do not think it could be this bad due to my flow. Hopefully after the infusions are over (8 of them), I will have some energy to move again and I can get some of
this weight off again.

Karen Cortez

----- Original Message -----
From: "jane_doe1966" <jane_doe1966@ yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:04:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?

Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass? I have been plagued with CRAP for almost 6 months. I got very sick and was in the hospital (that had nothing to do with the bypass) but when I was in hospital the doctors found out that my liver was failing however it turns out that it was something that "fixed" itself that is by liver caught up with my body and it comes and goes but it's not a big deal however I was In the hospital an extra week getting poked on.

The next thing happened also had nothing to do with the bypass however when I was having my appendix out they found a fistula (I think that's how it's spelled) anyway… and it had to be fixed they did 6 weeks after I got out of the hospital. However when they did I aspirated and ended up with septic lungs and was VERY ill in the hospital for 2 weeks…

This last time I was at working and lifted one of my guys up and in to bed and my bowl herniated and had to have a very emergency operation and it just seems to me that I have been in hospital more then not… and I was wondering if anyone else had such BAD LUCK after. I would not redo my bypass even if it meant that I would not have to have been sick I know it's saved my life but man oh man I am sick of being sick you know???

Donna
I was 387 June 30th 2008 I am today 180 July 28th 2009… I am happy I am alive and the bypass made it so I could be..

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1b. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
Posted by: "Karen Cortez" kikae1@comcast.net kikae1
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:43 am ((PDT))

Thank you. I have found a protien powder at GNC that I can not taste at all.... AMAZING right, lol. The only thing is that it does not disolve and is slightly grainy in the drinks that I make, but, still, no flavor at all. It is Natural Brand Soy Protein, has 60 cals, 13 g prots and 0 carbs. If I use it a few times a day in different meals or drinks I can get plenty of protein but, as you say it is on me. I do not like the texture in the drink. I have not had any problems with protein intake because I am a meat eater, but for the first time in my life (even at 322 lbs) my cholesterol is slightly elevated. Maybe because I have been eating alot of red meat to help make up the iron loss (not to mention I like beef). But, I keep telling myself that when I am feeling up to it I will start walking a little at a time again. I was always heavy (200 lbs by the time I was 17 yo) but I would walk miles with no trouble. Now I have trouble walking from the living room to the kitchen because my joints ache due to the Iron Infusions. I feel like I am 60 yo. LOL. I keep telling myself also, that eventually my body will run out of things to go wrong and I will be all better, LOL. I do not believe that but, I do believe that I will get better and lose this weight again.

Karen Cortez

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Doe" <jane_doe1966@yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:12:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast.net > wrote:

From: Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast.net >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:07 AM

Karen Cortez

Donna
I was 387 June 30th 2008 I am today 180 July 28th 2009… I am happy I am alive and the bypass made it so I could be..

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1c. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
Posted by: "Jane Doe" jane_doe1966@yahoo.com jane_doe1966
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:06 pm ((PDT))

I wouldlove to try something that has not taste.. that is my problem if I dont like it I wont drink it.. YUCK!!!!

Donna

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez <kikae1@comcast.net> wrote:

Thank you. I have found a protien powder at GNC that I can not taste at all..... AMAZING right, lol. The only thing is that it does not disolve and is slightly grainy in the drinks that I make, but, still, no flavor at all. It is Natural Brand Soy Protein, has 60 cals, 13 g prots and 0 carbs. If I use it a few times a day in different meals or drinks I can get plenty of protein but, as you say it is on me. I do not like the texture in the drink. I have not had any problems with protein intake because I am a meat eater, but for the first time in my life (even at 322 lbs) my cholesterol is slightly elevated. Maybe because I have been eating alot of red meat to help make up the iron loss (not to mention I like beef). But, I keep telling myself that when I am feeling up to it I will start walking a little at a time again. I was always heavy (200 lbs by the time I was 17 yo) but I would walk miles with no trouble. Now I have trouble walking from the living
room to the kitchen because my joints ache due to the Iron Infusions. I feel like I am 60 yo. LOL. I keep telling myself also, that eventually my body will run out of things to go wrong and I will be all better, LOL. I do not believe that but, I do believe that I will get better and lose this weight again.

Karen Cortez

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Doe" <jane_doe1966@ yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:12:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?

I have to take B 12 and others because I am low but darn not like you are. My problem with any thing like that was protein I could not get enough as we all know to well we have to drink that nasty stuff however I am a hard head and did I my very best to avoid at all cost the protein drinks all together YES THAT'S ALL ON ME lol.. and lost about 50 % of my hair and the doc was secondes away from doing a feeding tube. I took care of a man who has a feeding tube and you know that was MORE then enough to do better with that but again that was me not wanting to drink all that stuff YUCK..... I did find a few different things to replace the drinks one is called a protine shot not sure who makes it looks like its in a test tube.. NASTY but its not very much so if you can get it down your good. The other stuff is Isopure its like koolaid and I love it.. NO nasty make you have the shivers when you drink it. Its about 4.50 a bottle at GNC and they have like 5
different ones anyway.. I like them half that cals and NO carbs and 40G of protine,,, I drinkk one of them a day and I am ok... Not woonderful I know he would like for me to bring it up more but it is with in normal low normal but still normal. I hope you feeeling better soon..

Donna

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast. net > wrote:

From: Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast. net >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass?
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:07 AM

Karen Cortez

Donna
I was 387 June 30th 2008 I am today 180 July 28th 2009… I am happy I am alive and the bypass made it so I could be..

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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2a. Re: bulimia and anorexia after surgery
Posted by: "Tracie" tracie2114@yahoo.com tracie2114
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:44 am ((PDT))

Hi Chelsea, I went thru this after my surgery as well. I was so afraid to gain weight I was exercising 3-4X a day and was abusing diet pills. My BMI went down to 17.8. My supervisor at work yelled at me and held up my bony arm and said "This is not attractive". I started seeing Dr. Friday (a WLS psychiatrist) who helped me out a lot. I am 7 years post op and still struggle a lot and will admit I still "experiment" with diet pills on and off. I could easily fall back into that pattern. I went down to a little girls size 14. You say you are already seeing a therapist so that is good. It really helped me. I have been at a "normal/acceptable" weight for 4 years now. I would like to lose 25 lbs since I have gained that over the last 3 years and losing it would bring me back to a more healthier weight but not underweight but I have to be careful that I don't "slip" back into the obsession, which would be very easy to do. When I look back at the pictures when I was that small I can now see how sickly I looked and my supervisor was right, it was not attractive at all!!

--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Chelsea" <chelseafryer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys, it's Chelsea. I know I haven't posted in a while, but things are spinning out of control and I think I need some feedback and support. Before my wls last June I was approx 260 lbs and now I weigh 104. I'm 5'3" so that's not terrible, but more and more I find myself exercizing to the point of exhaustion or pain and forcing myself to vomit up at least one meal a day. Has anyone else gone through this? What kind of help do you recommend? I'm on medication for depression and anxiety and see a therapist regularly. Please, any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>

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3. Re: Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them aft...
Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com saraamy1985
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:43 pm ((PDT))

Donna
I buy unflavored protein powder at GNC. I take m y medications with
pudding so I mix 1 scoop (21g protein) with each 4oz pudding. I get a
total of 28g protein including the lactaid milk. There is no taste and the
medications go down fine. I do that twice a day.
Hope this helps.
Judy

PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.

In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:06:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jane_doe1966@yahoo.com writes:

I wouldlove to try something that has not taste.. that is my problem if I
dont like it I wont drink it.. YUCK!!!!

Donna

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez <_kikae1@comcast.kik_
(mailto:kikae1@comcast.net) > wrote:

From: Karen Cortez <_kikae1@comcast.kik_ (mailto:kikae1@comcast.net) >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened
to them after the bypass?
To: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
(mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 9:43 AM

Thank you. I have found a protien powder at GNC that I can not taste at
all..... AMAZING right, lol. The only thing is that it does not disolve and
is slightly grainy in the drinks that I make, but, still, no flavor at all.
It is Natural Brand Soy Protein, has 60 cals, 13 g prots and 0 carbs. If I
use it a few times a day in different meals or drinks I can get plenty of
protein but, as you say it is on me. I do not like the texture in the drink.
I have not had any problems with protein intake because I am a meat eater,
but for the first time in my life (even at 322 lbs) my cholesterol is
slightly elevated. Maybe because I have been eating alot of red meat to help
make up the iron loss (not to mention I like beef). But, I keep telling
myself that when I am feeling up to it I will start walking a little at a time
again. I was always heavy (200 lbs by the time I was 17 yo) but I would walk
miles with no trouble. Now I have trouble walking from the living
room to the kitchen because my joints ache due to the Iron Infusions. I
feel like I am 60 yo. LOL. I keep telling myself also, that eventually my
body will run out of things to go wrong and I will be all better, LOL. I do
not believe that but, I do believe that I will get better and lose this
weight again.

Karen Cortez

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Doe" <jane_doe1966@ yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:12:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened
to them after the bypass?

I have to take B 12 and others because I am low but darn not like you are.
My problem with any thing like that was protein I could not get enough as
we all know to well we have to drink that nasty stuff however I am a hard
head and did I my very best to avoid at all cost the protein drinks all
together YES THAT'S ALL ON ME lol.. and lost about 50 % of my hair and the
doc was secondes away from doing a feeding tube. I took care of a man who has
a feeding tube and you know that was MORE then enough to do better with
that but again that was me not wanting to drink all that stuff YUCK..... I
did find a few different things to replace the drinks one is called a protine
shot not sure who makes it looks like its in a test tube.. NASTY but its
not very much so if you can get it down your good. The other stuff is
Isopure its like koolaid and I love it.. NO nasty make you have the shivers when
you drink it. Its about 4.50 a bottle at GNC and they have like 5
different ones anyway.. I like them half that cals and NO carbs and 40G
of protine,,, I drinkk one of them a day and I am ok... Not woonderful I
know he would like for me to bring it up more but it is with in normal low
normal but still normal. I hope you feeeling better soon..

Donna

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast. net > wrote:

From: Karen Cortez < kikae1@comcast. net >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Has anyone had bad stuff happened
to them after the bypass?
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:07 AM

I too have had bad luck so to speak. 2 weeks after the WLS I was
hospitalized for my first kidney stone blockage. That was over 6 years ago. I still
have regular stones so much that I am now on disability. I am also very
anemic and am currently having iron infusions, my vit d is bottomed out, my
b12 bottomed out, and more... I understand about changing the decision if
you could go back in time. My hubby is also upset that I have been sick all
these years. I had surgery on 2/19/03 weighing in at 322 lbs. I went down to
198 lbs about 3 years out, but since I have gotten worse with the stones
and lethargy I have gained and now weigh 260 lbs. I can not seem to get the
energy to move so nothing happens with the weight. I was anemic a year ago,
but the doc said it was due to a "heavy flow" LOL. I do not think it could
be this bad due to my flow. Hopefully after the infusions are over (8 of
them), I will have some energy to move again and I can get some of
this weight off again.

Karen Cortez

Has anyone had bad stuff happened to them after the bypass? I have been
plagued with CRAP for almost 6 months. I got very sick and was in the
hospital (that had nothing to do with the bypass) but when I was in hospital the
doctors found out that my liver was failing however it turns out that it was
something that "fixed" itself that is by liver caught up with my body and
it comes and goes but it's not a big deal however I was In the hospital an
extra week getting poked on.

The next thing happened also had nothing to do with the bypass however
when I was having my appendix out they found a fistula (I think that's how
it's spelled) anyway… and it had to be fixed they did 6 weeks after I got out
of the hospital. However when they did I aspirated and ended up with septic
lungs and was VERY ill in the hospital for 2 weeks…

This last time I was at working and lifted one of my guys up and in to bed
and my bowl herniated and had to have a very emergency operation and it
just seems to me that I have been in hospital more then not… and I was
wondering if anyone else had such BAD LUCK after. I would not redo my bypass even
if it meant that I would not have to have been sick I know it's saved my
life but man oh man I am sick of being sick you know???

Donna
I was 387 June 30th 2008 I am today 180 July 28th 2009… I am happy I am
alive and the bypass made it so I could be..

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4a. Re: finally posted and am on the brink of weight gain
Posted by: "meaguilar69" meaguilar69@yahoo.com meaguilar69
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:49 pm ((PDT))

--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, Josie Chapaconner <edenscage@...> wrote:
>
> sounds like me
>
>
> Hi this is my first time on here, and I'm having the same problem I had the surgery Nov 2007 and I notice now I'm eating everything, I even started drinking the hard stuff and I'm really not a drinker this sucks I get sick a lot, I love it that I'm thin but I hate the way I feel sometimes
>
> ________________________________
> From: tianalwellsow <tianalwells@...>
> To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:29:57 AM
> Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] finally posted and am on the brink of weight gain
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[Serious-Weight-Watchers] Digest Number 12120

There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: My Hubby is so Sweet!
From: Jennifer Brown

2.1. Weigh in
From: Jennifer Brown

3a. Re: Weigh In
From: Jen

4. easy recipes
From: jewlz

5a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/29/2009, 12:15 p
From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
5b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/29/2009, 12:
From: mike dalpee

6a. Re: WW Magazine Deal
From: Kathy D.
6b. Re: WW Magazine Deal
From: Darcye9

7a. Hi gang
From: RenoGin@aol.com
7b. Re: Hi gang
From: Laurie Goodrich OBrien

8a. Re: I Blew It!
From: rcrooks@rocketmail.com

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1a. Re: My Hubby is so Sweet!
Posted by: "Jennifer Brown" mazdalady9@yahoo.com mazdalady9
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:42 am ((PDT))

Hello Faye:-) That is very sweet!
Have a Passionette Day!!!
Jennifer Brown, Independent Consultant
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From: Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@gmail.com>
To: Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:58:28 AM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] My Hubby is so Sweet!

Tuesday morning, when I got home from my 3rd shift, Bob had breakfast ready
for me! Scrambled eggs, turkey bacon, and toast with spray butter (how sweet
that it was even a good WW type breakfast- he even used bread that is only 1
point for two slices!)

Then later on I was telling him I was worried about my weigh in today
because of my binge Monday from that sugar low. He told me not to worry
about it. He said "You can't expect to lose every week. And to me you're
beautiful no matter what you weigh." I think he's not just paying lipservice
either cuz when we met I barely weighed 100 and now I weigh 147 so he's seen
me at my thinnest and my "thickest" and loved me the same and still wants me
in other ways if you know what I mean, so... :-)

My hubby's a keeper for sure! I had two serious relationships before him, so
I guess three times really *is* a charm!

I'm at work now...1 hour to go... 3rd shift is kind of cool but so dead! So
I'm reading gossip magazines. I don't know why I read that stuff when I know
half of it isn't true... Just a guilty pleasure I guess.

~~~Faye~~~

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2.1. Weigh in
Posted by: "Jennifer Brown" mazdalady9@yahoo.com mazdalady9
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:47 am ((PDT))

Hello Everyone,
Well Im up 2 pounds this week. I knew I would be. I made some very bad decisions this weekend. Im still only .4 over goal though so Im ok. My goal is to be at 130 by October 7th. I weighed in today at 141.4. My goal weight is 141. I want to get rid of my tummy. I have a wedding to get in shape for. This weekend was rough because I drank on Friday and Saturday. When I drink my stomach becomes an empty pit and for some reason I can eat A LOT. So Ive decided to give up drinking till August 21st to concentrate on my weight loss. Good news for me is I gained a point back so Im back to 20 points a day. I wasnt quite ready to be at 19 points I guess:-) My goal for this week is to earn all 28 activity points.
Have a Passionette Day!!!
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3a. Re: Weigh In
Posted by: "Jen" jenstk06@yahoo.com jenstk06
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:23 am ((PDT))

Congratulations!!!

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188/192.5/130

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To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:18:35 AM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Weigh In

1.6 pounds this week-15.4 in 4 weeks!

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4. easy recipes
Posted by: "jewlz" jewlz1233@yahoo.com jewlz1233
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:24 am ((PDT))

hey guys,
I have been doing weight watchers this go around for a couple days now. i did it last summer and lost 10lbs but then lost motivation with stressors of college and life.
well ive been doing really well lately however, my bf has put it on me to come up with dinner tonight ( we've been doing our on thing for the past couple of days) so i need somethign that is really affordable that makes a lot( so we can have left overs) that is pretty low in points. we love chicken and veggies any ideas?
thanks
jewlz

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5a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/29/2009, 12:15 p
Posted by: "Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com" Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:56 am ((PDT))

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Wednesday July 29, 2009
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5b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/29/2009, 12:
Posted by: "mike dalpee" mdalpee@cogeco.ca leslieannechapman
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:17 pm ((PDT))

Hubby had to be at work today at 6 am. I was off. So when I took him to work I went to the gym. Might as well get it done early in the day.
32 minutes on the elliptical
70 minutes on the treadmill
15 minutes on the upright bike
Leslie in Ontario

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6a. Re: WW Magazine Deal
Posted by: "Kathy D." ked18940@gmail.com ked189402
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:55 pm ((PDT))

thank you so much for posting this. i got 4 - yes four - years for $20.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a great deal!!!!!!!!!

i was already subscribed, but it let me put it in as a "renewal"

----- Original Message -----
From: Tory Klementsen
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

Hey thanks Cindie! I just subscribed!
Tory Klementsen, MCP A+
IT Educator
Certified Personal Fitness Trainer
www.journey-fitness.com
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www.teechur.com--school website

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6b. Re: WW Magazine Deal
Posted by: "Darcye9" darcye9@optonline.net darcye
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:05 pm ((PDT))

I got mine too. Didn't we do this deal last year too. Thank you to whoever it is keeping us posted:)

Darcy in CT
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy D.
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

thank you so much for posting this. i got 4 - yes four - years for $20.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a great deal!!!!!!!!!

i was already subscribed, but it let me put it in as a "renewal"

----- Original Message -----
From: Tory Klementsen
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] WW Magazine Deal

Hey thanks Cindie! I just subscribed!
Tory Klementsen, MCP A+
IT Educator
Certified Personal Fitness Trainer
www.journey-fitness.com
www.jfrunners.com
www.teechur.com--school website

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7a. Hi gang
Posted by: "RenoGin@aol.com" RenoGin@aol.com renoginny
Date: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:35 pm ((PDT))

Hi to all
Sorry I have not been good at updating things, This week has been insane.
Shannon arrived last Wednesday. She had a bit of a problem getting here.
She Wes following an military vehicle near Goldfield and a piece of
equipment fell off and hit her windshield. When she got here she went to see
about getting it replaced but there was damage to the frame so they could not
do it while she was here.

We spent our time here cleaning the garage. We took a truck load to the
dump and a truck load to Goodwill. Been trying to ge the junk out of here
for years. Divvied up Christmas stuff and old photos. Now I have a 3 car
garage that you could actually get 3 cars in--LOL

Then I still had dr appointments and lawyer appointments, etc. So been
really busy -- wanted this stuff done before I leave on the cruise.

They finally put me on Lassix and the legs, and ankles went down-- along
with that are the wrinkles reappearing. I am able to walk better. But I
have started having sever pain at night in my knees and ankles. It actually
wakes me up it is so bad. So today they have me go and have x-rays just to
be safe. I will Have blood work the day after I get home-- Then Monday an
MRI and a CT Scan, Then see the oncologist on Thursday. I figure with
having the MRI and CT on my birthday will be a good sign. What a
present!!!!!!!

Tomorrow Gail and I leave for San Francisco. We will be there till the
2nd when we board the Sea Princess headed for Alaska. I am soooo ready for
this.

Last night we went to the Aces ball game. We had our first rain delayed
game--LOL Leave me to pick a game that has rain--LOL It was Gail's family
and mine-- we had a good time and the team Won-- Shannon left for home today
and made it safely.

Thanks for Being there for me--I truly appreciate it.

Love and huggs
Ginny

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7b. Re: Hi gang
Posted by: "Laurie Goodrich OBrien" lgobrien@charter.net lgobrien75
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:45 am ((PDT))

Wow Ginny - I think about you so often. Is Shannon your daughter? Hope you
get everything taken care of so you can have a great cruise before your
treatment starts. Live life to its fullest! Every day is a gift FOR ALL OF
US!

Laurie from Michigan

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:34 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Hi gang

about getting it replaced but there was damage to the frame so they could
not
do it while she was here.

We spent our time here cleaning the garage. We took a truck load to the
dump and a truck load to Goodwill. Been trying to ge the junk out of here
for years. Divvied up Christmas stuff and old photos. Now I have a 3 car
garage that you could actually get 3 cars in--LOL

Then I still had dr appointments and lawyer appointments, etc. So been
really busy -- wanted this stuff done before I leave on the cruise.

They finally put me on Lassix and the legs, and ankles went down-- along
with that are the wrinkles reappearing. I am able to walk better. But I
have started having sever pain at night in my knees and ankles. It actually
wakes me up it is so bad. So today they have me go and have x-rays just to
be safe. I will Have blood work the day after I get home-- Then Monday an
MRI and a CT Scan, Then see the oncologist on Thursday. I figure with
having the MRI and CT on my birthday will be a good sign. What a
present!!!!!!!

Tomorrow Gail and I leave for San Francisco. We will be there till the
2nd when we board the Sea Princess headed for Alaska. I am soooo ready for
this.

Last night we went to the Aces ball game. We had our first rain delayed
game--LOL Leave me to pick a game that has rain--LOL It was Gail's family
and mine-- we had a good time and the team Won-- Shannon left for home today

and made it safely.

Thanks for Being there for me--I truly appreciate it.

Love and huggs
Ginny

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8a. Re: I Blew It!
Posted by: "rcrooks@rocketmail.com" rcrooks@rocketmail.com rcrooks@rocketmail.com
Date: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:45 am ((PDT))

Faye;
As a fellow diabetic, (non-insulin)but medicated. I can understand exactly how you felt. Just this week it happened to me too. I was so low all my meter said was low. Its hard to think, because you are low and its hard to think about eatting right, when you feel so bad.
I blew it too, it was like I lost my mind and all I can do now is to plan ahead better.
Thanks for sharing, it helps to know I am not the only one.
Rhonda

-- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@...> wrote:
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> Normally I am *so* good about staying on points but I really really blew it
> yesterday!
>
> I can't remember if everyone knows this but I am an insulin dependant
> diabetic. Well even though I do stay on points, I don't think I always make
> the *best* choices in food. I mean yes it is on points but much of it is
> those 100 calorie packs so that doesn't sustain a person very long...Plus I
> drink a ton of diet soda and almost no water.
>
> So this week I decided to make better choices for how I spend my points and
> also I am only allowing the sodas at work and only water or juice (the diet
> juices that are 0-10 calories only) at home.
>
> I guess I did *too* well because I had a very severe sugar low today. I was
> down to 56 (for those that don't know normal is between 75 and 120) and I
> was shaking severely. So severely that I could hardly hold my finger up to
> the test strip to put the blood on it.
>
> So... Even though I know better and keep glucose tablets around for this
> purpose- I went into panic mode and just wanted that awful feeling to go
> away- so... I went crazy on sugar! I ate a brownie (my husband baked
> brownies Sunday night), a bunch of Jelly Bellies, a cup of chocolate milk. I
> know I went way over cuz I only had 9 points left to spend (3 left for the
> day and 6 weeklies) and I was planning to eat 0 point foods if I got hungry
> cuz I was saving the 9 points for the spaghetti my husband said he was
> cooking for dinner.
>
> WI is Wednesday and I am dreading it. I know I can use the no weigh in pass
> but I want to hold myself accountable.
>
> I know this was a different circumstance but still just because I was having
> a low was no reason to get all crazy with it! I started with just the
> brownie then waited and retested and was still 56 so then that's when I
> panicked and started eating anything with sugar I could find. I wish my
> hubby had been home cuz he is very good at talking me down when I am about
> to do something stupid.
>
> Once I had had a particularly bad day at work and was so stressed I told my
> husband I was going to go get a Big Mac and fries and he said "You don't
> want to do that, how about if I take you to Applebee's and you can order
> from the WW menu?" That's back when they had the separate WW menu. Now you
> have to peruse the menu and find the WW items mixed in with the rest of
> them.
>
>
> ~~~Faye~~~
>
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