Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: No Energy
From: Victoria
2a. Re: DENISE, Kelly
From: Victoria
3a. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: Victoria
3b. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: Victoria
3c. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: Terri Bailey
3d. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: pat clark
3e. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: pat clark
3f. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: Pearson, John
3g. Re: tightness,small weight loss
From: pat clark
4. just had another nut appt
From: Brenda
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1a. Re: No Energy
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:02 am ((PDT))
Lee:
Thanks for your kind words about my experience, it is subjective, other people's mileage may vary.
You may want to review your exercise plan. It's possible you are building muscle with the workouts you are doing. Muscle weighs more than fat, and if you are 'exchanging' fat for muscle, it's good because muscle burns more calories, but you might be putting yourself onto a 'plateau' that way.
In my experience (and the advice from a couple of exercise trainers), weight-bearing exercise (on your feet), which in my case means racewalking or light jogging on a treadmill, is much more efficient for me than bicycling. I also have the concern that bicycling is hard on the knee and hip joints, I don't buy into it being a 'no impact activity, I hurt my knee bicycling and have stopped doing it entirely. With bicycling, you have to do twice as much of it to achieve the same effect as walking/jogging/racewalking.
Please check out the book "Smart Exercise" by Covert Bailey. He explains how the body burns fat and sugar, and how to exercise most efficiently. You really don't have to knock yourself out with 3 hours on the bicycle, when 20 minutes on the treadmill will do more for you.
Often, changing and stepping up your exercise regimen will get you over a plateau. I'd recommend adding more aerobics on your feet to get you over the crest. As you can tell, I'm not impressed with the results from bicycling as an efficient fat-burning exercise.
My 2 cents,
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, TheAgora81@... wrote:
>
>
> Wow, VIC, that is exactly what I have been waiting to hear. You listed
> everything that I wondered about. So thank you for answering that in a wise way.
> With your years of experience, PLEASE share more often on the ways to use
> the tool to the best of our abilities. Many of us do not know the ability of
> the tool. My tool may be a little larger than it should or maybe its my body
> just still hangs onto fat because it is still high in fat. There are
> factors that hold the tool back from being optimal. I almost think that the tool
> will maybe even work more efficiently once a major portion of the fat is gone
> and more muscle is around our bones.
> Such as:
> I just may be excersize too much. Three hours out on the bike last night
> may be doing me in and not helping? Eating too little may kick my body into
> starvation mode making it hold onto every fat cell. And also, my body is NOT
> loosing anything in 15 days now?
>
> These are factors that I have not figured out yet. It seems that I was
> loosing MORE when I just sat there and ate protein powder and did not move
> because of the pains of surgery.
> So I dont know. I give up.
>
> If you have any insights to these, ~~ let me know ~~
> Peace, Lee
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2a. Re: DENISE, Kelly
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:09 am ((PDT))
Cheeks -
I am stunned you're not on vitamins from out of the gate post op. Who is on your GI/nutrition team that they are authorized to stop your insulin and have they tested you first?
You are healing right now and that can sap a LOT of your energy. Take things easy, I recall being very tired for a few months post op. Your body is very busy trying to figure out its reconfiguration. I'd advise not to push yourself too hard.
Perhaps you might want to seek out a second or third opinion on your medical treatment post op, especially from a doctor who specializes in diabetes. Weight loss surgery has proven to vastly improve diabetes, but I'm thinking you should be tested first by someone with experience on that.
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, Cheeks7514@... wrote:
>
> The more I read from this group the more questions I have. I am 1 month
> out. I am so tired that sometimes I can't lift my hands over my head. I do
> go for walks but come dragging after a short time. The hospital I go to
> does not start vitamins until 3 months out so I am taking no vitamins at
> this time. The GI/nutrition team also started to play with medications they
> no nothing about (like trying to stop my insulin and some other medications.
> I hate feeling like this. I do understand that I am heading for 60 and
> had to take 2 trips to the OR but I don't think I should be feeling this
> weak this far out.
> Also thank you to the person that said they eat the Ezekiel bread.
> This was taken away from me about 1.5 years ago due to Gastroperasis and I
> look forward to getting it again.
> Judy
>
> PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/29/2009 12:03:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> steelctygirl@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
> (mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com) , TheAgora81@, The
> >I too am frustrated. I am 8 weeks post by-pass & have lost total of 30
> pounds. Am I expecting too much? I am taking my vitamins and have starting
> working out. Its' a little difficult getting all my water in-I used to drink
> gallons a day but now if I can get in 2-20oz bottles I am lucky. Is it
> possible I am not eating enough? I don't want to blow this,
> >
> > I current have these same frustrations, Kelly. I dont know why some
> > surgeons do a great job on some and a looser job on others. Also, I
> think that
> > women just have a harder time maybe. I am planning and thinking of going
> back on
> > the protein powder just because my brother in law took the protein
> powder
> > for one year until he came down 250 lbs. He warned me that that was the
> only
> > thing that worked for him in loosing the weight for him. Seems like it
> may
> > be my only way too.
> > But I had the lactose problem after month one and had to go prematurely
> on
> > regular foods and that has been not a good thing for my once little
> pouch.
> > What should be 2 oz is more like 6 oz now, maybe?
> > So now that the wonderful people here have HELPED me with LI and what to
> > get and do about it, I can now assuredly go to the store and restart my
> > process all over again and I will report back with the results.
> >
> > Would you like to do this together? Start the protein powders again and
> > keep with it till we loose all the weight and see where that goes? I
> will be
> > doing this on July 1, 2009. I want to realign myself with the surgery
> and
> > begin again. Let me know because I am determined.
> >
> > Peace, Lee
> >
> >
> > Ugh! I know your frustrations. I was 311 at surgery and got down to 194
> and
> > am currently back up to 208.5 lbs. I am only 15 months post-op on July
> 9th.
> > I quit smoking on April 1st (3 months ago) and I truely believe this is
> > what caused my 15 lb weight gain. I am so frustrated and irritated and
> upset
> > over it. Im suppose to be going down in weight, not up. Ugh! The further
> you
> > are out the harder it is to maintain.
> >
> > I too am interested on how to get back on the saddle, how to kick back
> my
> > weight loss and get back on the right track. I was thinking of starting
> > weight watchers also but didnt feel it was fair to anyone there. But I
> too
> > deserve to be able to keep track of things for myself too right?
> >
> > Kelly
> >
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3a. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:15 am ((PDT))
At 2 months out, I believe I was where you are at. if not less so. I lost 20 the first month, then 9 pounds the 2nd month. That seems reasonable to me.
Fatigue is part and parcel of your healing process. You body has undergone a massive restructuring. It will take a while to get back into gear.
'Funny' feelings are rampant after surgery. You must patiently observe your feelings and reactions over time. The red flag should go up (see a doctor) if you have pain or are unable to eat, or you throw up. Chew your food very, very well, even at 10 years post op I must remind myself of that habit. Avoid drinking with meals, as fluid expands all foods, even meats. Your upper stomach sphincter has been made smaller, so you're going to feel tightness until your body gets used to that. Chew, chew, chew!
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "steelctygirl" <steelctygirl@...> wrote:
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> Hi All,I'm 8 weeks post and I am very fatigued. I'm taking my vitamins/iron-exercising. When I eat, I feel a tightness around my stomach (below my bra). I make sure I do not overeat, no fat, sugars no excess calories. However, I don't think I'm losing what I should be. To date, I have lost 30 lbs. Should I be satisfied with this? I know everyone is different, but should I be eating more? Any feed-back would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
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3b. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:15 am ((PDT))
At 2 months out, I believe I was where you are at. if not less so. I lost 20 the first month, then 9 pounds the 2nd month. That seems reasonable to me.
Fatigue is part and parcel of your healing process. You body has undergone a massive restructuring. It will take a while to get back into gear.
'Funny' feelings are rampant after surgery. You must patiently observe your feelings and reactions over time. The red flag should go up (see a doctor) if you have pain or are unable to eat, or you throw up. Chew your food very, very well, even at 10 years post op I must remind myself of that habit. Avoid drinking with meals, as fluid expands all foods, even meats. Your upper stomach sphincter has been made smaller, so you're going to feel tightness until your body gets used to that. Chew, chew, chew!
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "steelctygirl" <steelctygirl@...> wrote:
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> Hi All,I'm 8 weeks post and I am very fatigued. I'm taking my vitamins/iron-exercising. When I eat, I feel a tightness around my stomach (below my bra). I make sure I do not overeat, no fat, sugars no excess calories. However, I don't think I'm losing what I should be. To date, I have lost 30 lbs. Should I be satisfied with this? I know everyone is different, but should I be eating more? Any feed-back would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
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3c. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "Terri Bailey" terri.bailey56@yahoo.com terri.bailey56
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:49 am ((PDT))
I (RNY 3/5/08) and my daughter (Gastric Sleeve 12/23/08) both feel that tightness. It kind of feels like a tennis ball stuck under the bottom rib. I had my gall bladder removed because of the pain under my ribs, but that didn't take care of the problem, it's just improved over time. Mine almost never happens now, and my daughters is getting better.
I agree, it is extremely important to chew well. I think if I really tracked the tightness/pain in my ribs, it's probably when I hurry and forget to chew right.
Best of luck and don't get discouraged by the adjustments. It is a major process for your body to get through, but I have never regretted it, and I've never met anybody who's ever been sorry. Just be patient and enjoy the process and the improvement in your overall health.
Terri
(RNY 3/5/08, 313/200/165)
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3d. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "pat clark" steelctygirl@yahoo.com steelctygirl
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:17 am ((PDT))
Thanks so much for the advise!
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Victoria <afterwls@aol.com> wrote:
From: Victoria <afterwls@aol.com>
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: tightness,small weight loss
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:15 AM
At 2 months out, I believe I was where you are at. if not less so. I lost 20 the first month, then 9 pounds the 2nd month. That seems reasonable to me.
Fatigue is part and parcel of your healing process. You body has undergone a massive restructuring. It will take a while to get back into gear.
'Funny' feelings are rampant after surgery. You must patiently observe your feelings and reactions over time. The red flag should go up (see a doctor) if you have pain or are unable to eat, or you throw up. Chew your food very, very well, even at 10 years post op I must remind myself of that habit. Avoid drinking with meals, as fluid expands all foods, even meats. Your upper stomach sphincter has been made smaller, so you're going to feel tightness until your body gets used to that. Chew, chew, chew!
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com, "steelctygirl" <steelctygirl@ ...> wrote:
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> Hi All,I'm 8 weeks post and I am very fatigued. I'm taking my vitamins/iron- exercising. When I eat, I feel a tightness around my stomach (below my bra). I make sure I do not overeat, no fat, sugars no excess calories. However, I don't think I'm losing what I should be. To date, I have lost 30 lbs. Should I be satisfied with this? I know everyone is different, but should I be eating more? Any feed-back would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
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3e. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "pat clark" steelctygirl@yahoo.com steelctygirl
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:20 am ((PDT))
Wow, I have learned more from you guys that my doctors' office. I appreciate all of the advise-still no regrets!
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Terri Bailey <terri.bailey56@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Terri Bailey <terri.bailey56@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] tightness,small weight loss
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:49 AM
I (RNY 3/5/08) and my daughter (Gastric Sleeve 12/23/08) both feel that tightness. It kind of feels like a tennis ball stuck under the bottom rib. I had my gall bladder removed because of the pain under my ribs, but that didn't take care of the problem, it's just improved over time. Mine almost never happens now, and my daughters is getting better.
I agree, it is extremely important to chew well. I think if I really tracked the tightness/pain in my ribs, it's probably when I hurry and forget to chew right.
Best of luck and don't get discouraged by the adjustments. It is a major process for your body to get through, but I have never regretted it, and I've never met anybody who's ever been sorry. Just be patient and enjoy the process and the improvement in your overall health.
Terri
(RNY 3/5/08, 313/200/165)
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3f. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "Pearson, John" john.pearson@hp.com jp_unwinders
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:26 am ((PDT))
What's a gastric sleeve?
John Pearson
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From: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:50 AM
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] tightness,small weight loss
I (RNY 3/5/08) and my daughter (Gastric Sleeve 12/23/08) both feel that tightness. It kind of feels like a tennis ball stuck under the bottom rib. I had my gall bladder removed because of the pain under my ribs, but that didn't take care of the problem, it's just improved over time. Mine almost never happens now, and my daughters is getting better.
I agree, it is extremely important to chew well. I think if I really tracked the tightness/pain in my ribs, it's probably when I hurry and forget to chew right.
Best of luck and don't get discouraged by the adjustments. It is a major process for your body to get through, but I have never regretted it, and I've never met anybody who's ever been sorry. Just be patient and enjoy the process and the improvement in your overall health.
Terri
(RNY 3/5/08, 313/200/165)
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3g. Re: tightness,small weight loss
Posted by: "pat clark" steelctygirl@yahoo.com steelctygirl
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:32 am ((PDT))
Gastric sleeve surgery is a relatively new kid on the block when it comes to bariatric surgery. Technically called gastric sleeve resection, it is typically used to safely jump-start the surgical weight loss process in people who are too obese or sick to have more invasive weight loss surgeries or are not candidates for gastric banding.
Put another way, gastric sleeve surgery lets such people reach a safe weight so they can then undergo the more radical gastric bypass surgery or duodenal switch surgery. The American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery states that this is the most useful application of gastric sleeve surgery at this time, because it appears to be faster and/or easier than other weight loss surgeries in these high-risk people.
Other names for gastric sleeve resection are sleeve gastrectomy, vertical sleeve gastrectromy, tube gastrectomy and laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy.
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Pearson, John <john.pearson@hp.com> wrote:
From: Pearson, John <john.pearson@hp.com>
Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] tightness,small weight loss
To: "afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com" <afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:25 PM
What's a gastric sleeve?
John Pearson
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From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Terri Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:50 AM
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] tightness,small weight loss
I (RNY 3/5/08) and my daughter (Gastric Sleeve 12/23/08) both feel that tightness. It kind of feels like a tennis ball stuck under the bottom rib. I had my gall bladder removed because of the pain under my ribs, but that didn't take care of the problem, it's just improved over time. Mine almost never happens now, and my daughters is getting better.
I agree, it is extremely important to chew well. I think if I really tracked the tightness/pain in my ribs, it's probably when I hurry and forget to chew right.
Best of luck and don't get discouraged by the adjustments. It is a major process for your body to get through, but I have never regretted it, and I've never met anybody who's ever been sorry. Just be patient and enjoy the process and the improvement in your overall health.
Terri
(RNY 3/5/08, 313/200/165)
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4. just had another nut appt
Posted by: "Brenda" brendac313@yahoo.com brendac313
Date: Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:16 am ((PDT))
I had another nutrionist appointment yesterday. Have three more to go. She said I was doing well...lost some weight..went over some things. I have a question. She asked me what was my goal weight. I am 5'6" and currently weight 284 was 289. I told her I was hoping for around 150. She said that the surgery should do anywhere from 160 to 190 so that was doable goal. Is that right? And is that during the honeymoon or total? Any suggestions from anybody or experiences works for me. I will ask next time I go, but was just curious for now what others were told at the start and where they ended up.
brenda.
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