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1a. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
1b. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
1c. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
1d. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: lisar320
1e. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
1f. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: Elaine Fugina
1g. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: lisar320
1h. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
2a. Re: pouch test
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
2b. Re: pouch test
From: starone
3a. CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
From: Juan J. Ramirez
3b. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
From: Karen Cortez
3c. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
From: Ellie Thomas
3d. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
From: Juan J. Ramirez
3e. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
From: Victoria
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1a. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:33 am ((PDT))
In a message dated 7/15/2009 8:45:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lisar908@comcast.net writes:
I had a lengthy conversation with our study dietician and she gave me a
document on Weight Loss Plateaus. If anyone is interested, I can post the
document OR post the highlights.
Lisa,
I would like a copy if you could send it to me. I have hit some major ones
so soon after surgery.
Thanks and peace, lee
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1b. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:41 am ((PDT))
In a message dated 7/16/2009 10:28:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
slgpo2008@gmail.com writes:
My dietician advised me to go on
straight
liquid protein for 3 days
exercised at least 15-30 minutes daily.
next two days replace one of
the meals with food,
regular food on the 6th day.
This sounds reasonable to me, Siri, and practically what I have decided to
do. I am on day 3 of protein powder and soup broth. So far my plateau has
begun a smidgen of letting go. two pounds for 3 days is something, anyway. I
have been able to excersize because of weather and responsibilities, but
today the weather may break and let me outside.
Peace, lee
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1c. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:09 am ((PDT))
Ok this is news. I went to my surgeon 4 hours away (this time, sometimes
more or sometimes less). It was a seminar for those who already had the
surgery and then another seminar next door for those wanting the surgery.
What I learned was very valuable. He said:
The hormone Ghrelin is what is responsible for our hunger, AND, (what I
have been saying about the Hungry Tiger) is the hunger, when it starts is lower
in the small intestines and not the stomach anymore. (more like a fierce
biting pain)
This is exactly where my NEW hunger is. The reason is, the upper part of
the stomach is where most of the Ghrelin is made and they detach that part of
the stomach, but it is left there inside of you for an RNY and so therefore
it take 6 mos to 2 yrs for the Ghrelin to sink down and begin its hormonal
hunger thing, or less in my case.
That is the major thing in hunger and what they are researching to stop
with a diet pill. It stops the hormone Ghrelin. When asked if it was safe to
take a diet pill with WLS, he said, "GO AHEAD. It does not interfere with
anything and as long as you are taking your supplements and getting your protein
in, why not?" He said many people take phentermine with the WLS. My
question in my head was, where can I get phentermine these days? LOL
Then I asked him about the "vegas nerve", the nerve responsible for hunger
stimulation. He said that they actually cut part of that nerve out during
the surgery for RNY so its better than it was before.
One last thing that was said was, WLS is like a car traveling across the US
to California, you can diet your way across in which you will never get
there or you can use a tool to get there (a car) and you will get there for
sure. It may take 6 mos to a year but you will definitely get there.
Hmmm, maybe they will come out with a jet airliner to get us there, next?
My feelings are I am very honored to have had this surgery after fighting
for it for 10 years with some blasted doctors who treated me roughly and
indignitly. Then to find this doctor miles away who treated me fairly and
honestly is nothing short of a miracle for me in my life so I want to know
everything on how to fight to make this work. After all, this operation did not
come easy for me, I had to fight to get it every day. NOW, I am going to have
to do the same fight only with my body this time. Fighting with your body to
comply is the hardest thing because I like to be easy on myself and ease
into things the kind way. Being on the protein powder drink for 7 days is not
all that unkind, because when I look at the scale (which is night and day) it
is kind to me and I feel as though I just gave myself a big hug in loving
who I am and how I can become me again.
Peaceful Thoughts on your WL journey,
Lee
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1d. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:26 am ((PDT))
Lee,
When I feel "tiger hunger", many times it is emotional hunger and not physical hunger. I'm not saying I don't get hungry 4 months after weight loss surgery however many times when I want to eat it's because it's in my head. This is especially true at night when I want to graze.
I've been unemployed for a year and on those rare days when I'm frustrated with my job search and bored, I want to eat. I walk 30-40 minutes every morning. When it's hot, humid or rainy, I use Leslie Sansone's Walk at Home and I do a 1 or 2 mile walk (translate to 20 or 35 minute walk at home).
I'm on my 2nd day of a semi-liquid diet and the scale is back to 220. Starting tomorrow, I will move on to soft foods. The 1st day was torture and I really was hungry. When I'm hungry (either physically or emotionally) I tend to focus on food so yesterday I did everything I could to re-focus my mind. This morning I was not hungry.
Enjoy your day!
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
220
140
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, TheAgora81@... wrote:
>
> Ok this is news. I went to my surgeon 4 hours away (this time, sometimes
> more or sometimes less). It was a seminar for those who already had the
> surgery and then another seminar next door for those wanting the surgery.
>
> What I learned was very valuable. He said:
>
> The hormone Ghrelin is what is responsible for our hunger, AND, (what I
> have been saying about the Hungry Tiger) is the hunger, when it starts is lower
> in the small intestines and not the stomach anymore. (more like a fierce
> biting pain)
> This is exactly where my NEW hunger is. The reason is, the upper part of
> the stomach is where most of the Ghrelin is made and they detach that part of
> the stomach, but it is left there inside of you for an RNY and so therefore
> it take 6 mos to 2 yrs for the Ghrelin to sink down and begin its hormonal
> hunger thing, or less in my case.
>
> That is the major thing in hunger and what they are researching to stop
> with a diet pill. It stops the hormone Ghrelin. When asked if it was safe to
> take a diet pill with WLS, he said, "GO AHEAD. It does not interfere with
> anything and as long as you are taking your supplements and getting your protein
> in, why not?" He said many people take phentermine with the WLS. My
> question in my head was, where can I get phentermine these days? LOL
>
> Then I asked him about the "vegas nerve", the nerve responsible for hunger
> stimulation. He said that they actually cut part of that nerve out during
> the surgery for RNY so its better than it was before.
>
> One last thing that was said was, WLS is like a car traveling across the US
> to California, you can diet your way across in which you will never get
> there or you can use a tool to get there (a car) and you will get there for
> sure. It may take 6 mos to a year but you will definitely get there.
>
> Hmmm, maybe they will come out with a jet airliner to get us there, next?
>
> My feelings are I am very honored to have had this surgery after fighting
> for it for 10 years with some blasted doctors who treated me roughly and
> indignitly. Then to find this doctor miles away who treated me fairly and
> honestly is nothing short of a miracle for me in my life so I want to know
> everything on how to fight to make this work. After all, this operation did not
> come easy for me, I had to fight to get it every day. NOW, I am going to have
> to do the same fight only with my body this time. Fighting with your body to
> comply is the hardest thing because I like to be easy on myself and ease
> into things the kind way. Being on the protein powder drink for 7 days is not
> all that unkind, because when I look at the scale (which is night and day) it
> is kind to me and I feel as though I just gave myself a big hug in loving
> who I am and how I can become me again.
>
> Peaceful Thoughts on your WL journey,
> Lee
> **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now.
> (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu
> slove00000001)
>
>
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>
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1e. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:26 pm ((PDT))
Hello Lisa,
I wished I had brain hunger as I do right now on the protein shakes. Its
easy for me to ignore emotional or brain hunger. When my lower ab start
tearing and gnawing, I am gripped with total starvation. (like my body really
needs something?) I am calmed now by the protein powder regiment, thank the
Lord! The ghrelin hormone is strong with me, ungodly strong. I hope I make it
with the rest of you.
Peace to me and you, Lee
Ps. we started at about the same time at about the same weight,
250/185/110
3/2/09
Lee,
When I feel "tiger hunger", many times it is emotional hunger and not
physical hunger. I'm not saying I don't get hungry 4 months after weight loss
surgery however many times when I want to eat it's because it's in my head.
This is especially true at night when I want to graze.
I've been unemployed for a year and on those rare days when I'm frustrated
with my job search and bored, I want to eat. I walk 30-40 minutes every
morning. When it's hot, humid or rainy, I use Leslie Sansone's Walk at Home and
I do a 1 or 2 mile walk (translate to 20 or 35 minute walk at home).
I'm on my 2nd day of a semi-liquid diet and the scale is back to 220.
Starting tomorrow, I will move on to soft foods. The 1st day was torture and I
really was hungry. When I'm hungry (either physically or emotionally) I tend
to focus on food so yesterday I did everything I could to re-focus my mind.
This morning I was not hungry.
Enjoy your day!
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
220
140
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1f. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "Elaine Fugina" efugina@yahoo.com efugina
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:30 pm ((PDT))
Dear Lee,
Elaine here. You are always such a fountain of knowledge. Thank you for sharing everything you learn. I'm so happy to hear that you have a logical reason for your body's behavior. Much peace to you.
--- On Fri, 7/17/09, TheAgora81@aol.com <TheAgora81@aol.com> wrote:
From: TheAgora81@aol.com <TheAgora81@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Weight loss plateau
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 5:08 PM
Ok this is news. I went to my surgeon 4 hours away (this time, sometimes
more or sometimes less). It was a seminar for those who already had the
surgery and then another seminar next door for those wanting the surgery.
What I learned was very valuable. He said:
The hormone Ghrelin is what is responsible for our hunger, AND, (what I
have been saying about the Hungry Tiger) is the hunger, when it starts is lower
in the small intestines and not the stomach anymore. (more like a fierce
biting pain)
This is exactly where my NEW hunger is. The reason is, the upper part of
the stomach is where most of the Ghrelin is made and they detach that part of
the stomach, but it is left there inside of you for an RNY and so therefore
it take 6 mos to 2 yrs for the Ghrelin to sink down and begin its hormonal
hunger thing, or less in my case.
That is the major thing in hunger and what they are researching to stop
with a diet pill. It stops the hormone Ghrelin. When asked if it was safe to
take a diet pill with WLS, he said, "GO AHEAD. It does not interfere with
anything and as long as you are taking your supplements and getting your protein
in, why not?" He said many people take phentermine with the WLS. My
question in my head was, where can I get phentermine these days? LOL
Then I asked him about the "vegas nerve", the nerve responsible for hunger
stimulation. He said that they actually cut part of that nerve out during
the surgery for RNY so its better than it was before.
One last thing that was said was, WLS is like a car traveling across the US
to California, you can diet your way across in which you will never get
there or you can use a tool to get there (a car) and you will get there for
sure. It may take 6 mos to a year but you will definitely get there.
Hmmm, maybe they will come out with a jet airliner to get us there, next?
My feelings are I am very honored to have had this surgery after fighting
for it for 10 years with some blasted doctors who treated me roughly and
indignitly. Then to find this doctor miles away who treated me fairly and
honestly is nothing short of a miracle for me in my life so I want to know
everything on how to fight to make this work. After all, this operation did not
come easy for me, I had to fight to get it every day. NOW, I am going to have
to do the same fight only with my body this time. Fighting with your body to
comply is the hardest thing because I like to be easy on myself and ease
into things the kind way. Being on the protein powder drink for 7 days is not
all that unkind, because when I look at the scale (which is night and day) it
is kind to me and I feel as though I just gave myself a big hug in loving
who I am and how I can become me again.
Peaceful Thoughts on your WL journey,
Lee
************ **Can love help you live longer? Find out now.
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1g. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:29 pm ((PDT))
Lee,
Just remember you can deal with the hunger one day at a time or one hour at a time. I find that's the best way to deal with any challenge.
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
220
140
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, TheAgora81@... wrote:
>
>
> Hello Lisa,
> I wished I had brain hunger as I do right now on the protein shakes. Its
> easy for me to ignore emotional or brain hunger. When my lower ab start
> tearing and gnawing, I am gripped with total starvation. (like my body really
> needs something?) I am calmed now by the protein powder regiment, thank the
> Lord! The ghrelin hormone is strong with me, ungodly strong. I hope I make it
> with the rest of you.
>
> Peace to me and you, Lee
> Ps. we started at about the same time at about the same weight,
> 250/185/110
> 3/2/09
>
>
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1h. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:01 pm ((PDT))
In a message dated 7/17/2009 3:31:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
efugina@yahoo.com writes:
Elaine here. You are always such a fountain of knowledge.
Hello Elaine, I was just relaying what was in the seminar at my doctors
hospital hours away from me. He is so informative. I have been to many doctors
seminars but this one guy is exceptional. I was not the only one thinking
it, there was a lady in the audience who also verbally spoke out from her seat
about his knowledge and willingness to share it all with us. I think he is
exceptional!
peace, Lee
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2a. Re: pouch test
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:44 am ((PDT))
Just the powder and the soup but sometimes I add in a hard boilded egg for
a balanced snack that is just 2 oz.
Peace, lee
, pinkie1153@yahoo.com writes:
Do you have the soup on the first two days or what exactly do you have
besides the protein. I love split pea soup and I think that is listed on there.
________________________________
From: "_TheAgora81@aol.The_ (mailto:TheAgora81@aol.com) "
<_TheAgora81@aol.The_ (mailto:TheAgora81@aol.com) >
To: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
(mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:43:50 AM
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] pouch test
If you are still doing it Ellie, I am doing it too. The pouch test I
restarted it. I did it a week and a hakf ago and lost 5 pounds. Now I am
going for
it again. If I have to jump kick my pouch every time I will do that. My
body JUST DOES NOT want to give up any of its girly weight. /oh to have
muscles
to not have to work so hard/
Peace, lee
omgosh i did the 5 day pouch test and its like ive been reborn! It wasnt
easy, but now im feeling like right after i had surgery. im down the 7
pounds
and probably more...i dont weight but once a week...!!! the appetite is
gone...I think getting away from the carbs and doing notthing but 4 oz ( or
1
cup) of protein 4 2 days...soft for 2 days, then back to 4oz of hard
protein
helped!!!! also it helped me get back to the rules...no drinking 30 before
and waiting 30 after has made all the difference. Just take it from someone
who has been there done that........ also it helped me get back to the
rules...no drinking 30 before and waiting 30 after has made all the
difference.
Just take it from someone who
God Bless Ellie
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2b. Re: pouch test
Posted by: "starone" starone57@rogers.com starone57@rogers.com
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:23 pm ((PDT))
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, TheAgora81@... wrote:
>http://www.5daypouchtest.com/plan/theplan.html
>
>
>
>
> Just the powder and the soup but sometimes I add in a hard boilded egg for
> a balanced snack that is just 2 oz.
>
> Peace, lee
>
> , pinkie1153@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you have the soup on the first two days or what exactly do you have
> besides the protein. I love split pea soup and I think that is listed on there.
>
> ________________________________
> From: "_TheAgora81@..._ (mailto:TheAgora81@...) "
> <_TheAgora81@..._ (mailto:TheAgora81@...) >
> To: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
> (mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com)
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:43:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] pouch test
>
> If you are still doing it Ellie, I am doing it too. The pouch test I
> restarted it. I did it a week and a hakf ago and lost 5 pounds. Now I am
> going for
> it again. If I have to jump kick my pouch every time I will do that. My
> body JUST DOES NOT want to give up any of its girly weight. /oh to have
> muscles
> to not have to work so hard/
>
> Peace, lee
>
> omgosh i did the 5 day pouch test and its like ive been reborn! It wasnt
> easy, but now im feeling like right after i had surgery. im down the 7
> pounds
> and probably more...i dont weight but once a week...!!! the appetite is
> gone...I think getting away from the carbs and doing notthing but 4 oz ( or
> 1
> cup) of protein 4 2 days...soft for 2 days, then back to 4oz of hard
> protein
> helped!!!! also it helped me get back to the rules...no drinking 30 before
> and waiting 30 after has made all the difference. Just take it from someone
> who has been there done that........ also it helped me get back to the
> rules...no drinking 30 before and waiting 30 after has made all the
> difference.
> Just take it from someone who
> God Bless Ellie
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now.
> (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu
> slove00000001)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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3a. CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
Posted by: "Juan J. Ramirez" jjrb230@sbcglobal.net jjrb1950
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:54 am ((PDT))
There is a new ceramic "heat retentive plate" that stays hot for half hour and requires only one minute preheating in a microwave oven; the rim stays cool for safe handling with bare hands. It is ideal for people who like to eat slowly, like gastric bypass patients, it really keeps food warm. Type HotSmart in any browser search engine. It is available at Amazon.com.
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3b. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
Posted by: "Karen Cortez" kikae1@comcast.net kikae1
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:00 am ((PDT))
salespitch much
Karen Cortez
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan J. Ramirez" <jjrb230@sbcglobal.net>
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:36:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
There is a new ceramic "heat retentive plate" that stays hot for half hour and requires only one minute preheating in a microwave oven; the rim stays cool for safe handling with bare hands. It is ideal for people who like to eat slowly, like gastric bypass patients, it really keeps food warm. Type HotSmart in any browser search engine. It is available at Amazon.com.
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3c. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
Posted by: "Ellie Thomas" desertblondee1@yahoo.com desertblondee1
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:58 am ((PDT))
HEY THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION...!!! HAVE A BLESSED WEEKEND...OFF TO UTAH...GOTTA GET OUT OF THIS HEAT..LOL I NOW KNOW WHAT HELL MUST FEEL LIKE! HAHAHA HUGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HAVE A BLESSED WEEKEND!
ELLIE
RNY 310
PRESENT 181
Goal 155
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From: Juan J. Ramirez <jjrb230@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 9:36 AM
There is a new ceramic "heat retentive plate" that stays hot for half hour and requires only one minute preheating in a microwave oven; the rim stays cool for safe handling with bare hands. It is ideal for people who like to eat slowly, like gastric bypass patients, it really keeps food warm. Type HotSmart in any browser search engine. It is available at Amazon.com.
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3d. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
Posted by: "Juan J. Ramirez" jjrb230@sbcglobal.net jjrb1950
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:39 pm ((PDT))
OK, don't you have to eat slowly after WLS? Doesn't food get cold? Do you
know a better "heat retentive plate" of any brand? I thought you'd be happy
to know.
Truly yours
Juan J. Ramirez
From: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Cortez
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:00 AM
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR
HALF HOUR
salespitch much
Karen Cortez
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan J. Ramirez" <jjrb230@sbcglobal. <mailto:jjrb230%40sbcglobal.net>
net>
To: afterweightlosssurg <mailto:afterweightlosssurgery%40yahoogroups.com>
ery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:36:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF
HOUR
There is a new ceramic "heat retentive plate" that stays hot for half hour
and requires only one minute preheating in a microwave oven; the rim stays
cool for safe handling with bare hands. It is ideal for people who like to
eat slowly, like gastric bypass patients, it really keeps food warm. Type
HotSmart in any browser search engine. It is available at Amazon.com.
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3e. Re: CERAMIC PLATE THAT STAYS HOT FOR HALF HOUR
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:40 pm ((PDT))
I don't think it is a salespitch. We welcome recommendations of products that are helpful to life after WLS, and this sounds like one of them.
-Vic
group founder
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, Karen Cortez <kikae1@...> wrote:
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> salespitch much
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> Karen Cortez
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juan J. Ramirez" <jjrb230@...>
> There is a new ceramic "heat retentive plate" that stays hot for half hour and requires only one minute preheating in a microwave oven; the rim stays cool for safe handling with bare hands. It is ideal for people who like to eat slowly, like gastric bypass patients, it really keeps food warm. Type HotSmart in any browser search engine. It is available at Amazon.com.
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