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1.1. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: lisar320
1.2. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: Victoria
1.3. Re: Weight loss plateau
From: lisar320
2. This is hard at times!
From: lisar320
3. Anyone had the ROSE Procedure?
From: ask and i shall tell
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1.1. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:06 am ((PDT))
Hi Vic,
I discussed the pouch test with our group's dietician and she thought it was a great idea. My next follow-up visit with the surgeon/his residents is in September. The hospital is 1.5 hours away by public transportation, so I don't visit in-between. Thank God I haven't had any really negative side effects.
These days, my biggest challenge is my mind. I find myself thinking about food way too often. I know this is a journey and I will learn as I go. The positive is I'm losing again and I can resist my mind most of the time. When I eat a little too much, I eat cottage cheese or matza with no fat cheese instead of sugary foods. I actually don't have any sugary foods in my home. It's one of the benefits of being single. I shop for myself and that's it. I've had birthday cake 3x since I had my weight loss surgery and I'm able to eat 1/2 of 1/2 of a piece.
Enjoy your day.
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
218
140
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa:
>
> I'm very glad to hear you're getting input and support from your surgeon and his colleagues. I believe we all have to find our own 'way' after WLS, and professional advice is always a good thing. I want to say I think you're really brave to volunteer for an experimental procedure.
>
> Did you tell your surgeon about the Pouch Test? Mine was not impressed. He just didn't get it. His response to my concern that my capacity had increased (my stomach had stretched) was to give me a classic upper GI x-ray with barium. ZZZZZZ Hello! Perhaps your Dr will 'get it' with the Pouch test.
>
> -Vic
>
>
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@> wrote:
> >
> > Vic,
> > I spent 1/2 hour on the phone with the dietician in our study last week. She sent me information on weight loss plateaus and helped me understand what I needed to do.
> > The study has a very defined follow-up program: After surgery: 1 day, 30 days, 4 wks, 3, 6, 9 & 12 months. I was only in the hospital overnight and I met with the surgeon on Day 1. Since then I meet with one of his interns during each follow-up visit. I've called and spoken to my surgeon a few times since I had surgery and he actually called me back. One of the reasons I did this clinical trial was because of the follow-up program.
> > FYI, my weight loss plateau is over for now. I weighed myself this morning and I am at 219. During the past few weeks, I've been gaining & losing the same 2-4 lbs. I'm on day 3 of the 5 day pouch test.
> > Since I lost weight, I think I've either been eating too much food or eating too many carbs. (I get full rather quickly and I eat 3-4 small meals per day plus 2 snacks. I was eating snacks too late at night and I stopped when I started the 5 day pouch test. The only other timem I lost weight this quickly was when I was on a liquid diet. That was the 1st 2 weeks after my surgery. I lost 1-2 lbs per day because I went from eating huge meals and snacks to a liquid diet.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your help!
> > Lisa
> > New Providence, NJ
> > 260
> > 219
> > 140
> >
> > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@> wrote:
> > >
> > > @Lisa:
> > >
> > > If your procedure is so cutting edge, I'd think your surgeon should take more interest in your progress. Have you consulted your surgeon about your plateau issue?
> > >
>
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1.2. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "Victoria" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:39 pm ((PDT))
Lisa:
Glad to hear your dietician likes the Pouch Test. I wish more health practitioners knew about it.
I think about food very often. I am 10 years post op, but I do have those thoughts. I am a big 'foodie', too, love to cook, feed others, watch the Food channel, read about and collect recipes, etc. I often have a compulsion to eat, which I can defeat with drinking water. Thankfully 'my eyes are bigger than my stomach', and a small nibble here and there will take care of my hunger. I 'graze' during the day, I don't stick to '3 square meals'. Yet I have maintained my weight loss. I have been exercising a lot more lately, which seems to make me more hungry. Ironically, I am watching myself go down a pants size while staying around the same weight. I believe I have accomplished that by racewalking, which requires you to swivel at the waist while striding. This works the oblique and abdominal muscles, and I am much firmer in that area (since April this year). But I still get hungry...so, I eat. I eat something nutritious, low carb, often protein. This may be our 'curse', but I find it completely manageable.
I can't eat sweets due to dumping reaction. I'll have some sugar-free gum or a s-f popsicle or no sugar added fudgicle or even fresh fruit when my sweet tooth strikes.
-Vic
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Vic,
> I discussed the pouch test with our group's dietician and she thought it was a great idea. My next follow-up visit with the surgeon/his residents is in September. The hospital is 1.5 hours away by public transportation, so I don't visit in-between. Thank God I haven't had any really negative side effects.
> These days, my biggest challenge is my mind. I find myself thinking about food way too often. I know this is a journey and I will learn as I go. The positive is I'm losing again and I can resist my mind most of the time. When I eat a little too much, I eat cottage cheese or matza with no fat cheese instead of sugary foods. I actually don't have any sugary foods in my home. It's one of the benefits of being single. I shop for myself and that's it. I've had birthday cake 3x since I had my weight loss surgery and I'm able to eat 1/2 of 1/2 of a piece.
> Enjoy your day.
> Lisa
> New Providence, NJ
> 260
> 218
> 140
>
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@> wrote:
> >
> > Lisa:
> >
> > I'm very glad to hear you're getting input and support from your surgeon and his colleagues. I believe we all have to find our own 'way' after WLS, and professional advice is always a good thing. I want to say I think you're really brave to volunteer for an experimental procedure.
> >
> > Did you tell your surgeon about the Pouch Test? Mine was not impressed. He just didn't get it. His response to my concern that my capacity had increased (my stomach had stretched) was to give me a classic upper GI x-ray with barium. ZZZZZZ Hello! Perhaps your Dr will 'get it' with the Pouch test.
> >
> > -Vic
> >
> >
> > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Vic,
> > > I spent 1/2 hour on the phone with the dietician in our study last week. She sent me information on weight loss plateaus and helped me understand what I needed to do.
> > > The study has a very defined follow-up program: After surgery: 1 day, 30 days, 4 wks, 3, 6, 9 & 12 months. I was only in the hospital overnight and I met with the surgeon on Day 1. Since then I meet with one of his interns during each follow-up visit. I've called and spoken to my surgeon a few times since I had surgery and he actually called me back. One of the reasons I did this clinical trial was because of the follow-up program.
> > > FYI, my weight loss plateau is over for now. I weighed myself this morning and I am at 219. During the past few weeks, I've been gaining & losing the same 2-4 lbs. I'm on day 3 of the 5 day pouch test.
> > > Since I lost weight, I think I've either been eating too much food or eating too many carbs. (I get full rather quickly and I eat 3-4 small meals per day plus 2 snacks. I was eating snacks too late at night and I stopped when I started the 5 day pouch test. The only other timem I lost weight this quickly was when I was on a liquid diet. That was the 1st 2 weeks after my surgery. I lost 1-2 lbs per day because I went from eating huge meals and snacks to a liquid diet.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your help!
> > > Lisa
> > > New Providence, NJ
> > > 260
> > > 219
> > > 140
> > >
> > > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > @Lisa:
> > > >
> > > > If your procedure is so cutting edge, I'd think your surgeon should take more interest in your progress. Have you consulted your surgeon about your plateau issue?
> > > >
> >
>
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1.3. Re: Weight loss plateau
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:26 pm ((PDT))
Vic,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It helps!!
When I initially met with the dietician for our study, I was told this would be a high protein & low fat diet. She also told me to watch carbs and warned me that I may react to too much fat, sugar or food. I was and am determined not to overeat to the point where I vomit. I did some research on WLS prior to my surgery and I continue to review articles on the web and posts from members of this group as I encounter issues.
I am a compulsive overeater, recovering alcoholic and addict. I've been sober & clean for 21 years as of last May. I am using the discipline I learned in recover to help me get past the food urges. Sometimes water works and sometimes picking up a phone or writing an email works. I DO know that if I focus on an urge to eat, it will become a compulsion. I am NOT perfect however I AM determined to lose the weight and put the compulsive overeating to rest.
I continue to be amazed at how little I can eat and also that I'm willing to exercise (walk) daily. I do know from prior experience if I eat sugar, I want to eat more food. Yet I still had 1 tablespoon of reduced fat peanut butter tonight. Dumping is not supposed to be a side affect of this type of weight loss surgery, however I had Jello that wasn't sugar free in my 2nd week post surgery and dumped. So I do watch the sugar.
As of today, I am down to 217. I haven't weighed that little in years!
Thanks again!
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
217
140
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa:
> Glad to hear your dietician likes the Pouch Test. I wish more health practitioners knew about it.
>
> I think about food very often. I am 10 years post op, but I do have those thoughts. I am a big 'foodie', too, love to cook, feed others, watch the Food channel, read about and collect recipes, etc. I often have a compulsion to eat, which I can defeat with drinking water. Thankfully 'my eyes are bigger than my stomach', and a small nibble here and there will take care of my hunger. I 'graze' during the day, I don't stick to '3 square meals'. Yet I have maintained my weight loss. I have been exercising a lot more lately, which seems to make me more hungry. Ironically, I am watching myself go down a pants size while staying around the same weight. I believe I have accomplished that by racewalking, which requires you to swivel at the waist while striding. This works the oblique and abdominal muscles, and I am much firmer in that area (since April this year). But I still get hungry...so, I eat. I eat something nutritious, low carb, often protein. This may be our 'curse', but I find it completely manageable.
>
> I can't eat sweets due to dumping reaction. I'll have some sugar-free gum or a s-f popsicle or no sugar added fudgicle or even fresh fruit when my sweet tooth strikes.
>
> -Vic
>
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Vic,
> > I discussed the pouch test with our group's dietician and she thought it was a great idea. My next follow-up visit with the surgeon/his residents is in September. The hospital is 1.5 hours away by public transportation, so I don't visit in-between. Thank God I haven't had any really negative side effects.
> > These days, my biggest challenge is my mind. I find myself thinking about food way too often. I know this is a journey and I will learn as I go. The positive is I'm losing again and I can resist my mind most of the time. When I eat a little too much, I eat cottage cheese or matza with no fat cheese instead of sugary foods. I actually don't have any sugary foods in my home. It's one of the benefits of being single. I shop for myself and that's it. I've had birthday cake 3x since I had my weight loss surgery and I'm able to eat 1/2 of 1/2 of a piece.
> > Enjoy your day.
> > Lisa
> > New Providence, NJ
> > 260
> > 218
> > 140
> >
> > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lisa:
> > >
> > > I'm very glad to hear you're getting input and support from your surgeon and his colleagues. I believe we all have to find our own 'way' after WLS, and professional advice is always a good thing. I want to say I think you're really brave to volunteer for an experimental procedure.
> > >
> > > Did you tell your surgeon about the Pouch Test? Mine was not impressed. He just didn't get it. His response to my concern that my capacity had increased (my stomach had stretched) was to give me a classic upper GI x-ray with barium. ZZZZZZ Hello! Perhaps your Dr will 'get it' with the Pouch test.
> > >
> > > -Vic
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Vic,
> > > > I spent 1/2 hour on the phone with the dietician in our study last week. She sent me information on weight loss plateaus and helped me understand what I needed to do.
> > > > The study has a very defined follow-up program: After surgery: 1 day, 30 days, 4 wks, 3, 6, 9 & 12 months. I was only in the hospital overnight and I met with the surgeon on Day 1. Since then I meet with one of his interns during each follow-up visit. I've called and spoken to my surgeon a few times since I had surgery and he actually called me back. One of the reasons I did this clinical trial was because of the follow-up program.
> > > > FYI, my weight loss plateau is over for now. I weighed myself this morning and I am at 219. During the past few weeks, I've been gaining & losing the same 2-4 lbs. I'm on day 3 of the 5 day pouch test.
> > > > Since I lost weight, I think I've either been eating too much food or eating too many carbs. (I get full rather quickly and I eat 3-4 small meals per day plus 2 snacks. I was eating snacks too late at night and I stopped when I started the 5 day pouch test. The only other timem I lost weight this quickly was when I was on a liquid diet. That was the 1st 2 weeks after my surgery. I lost 1-2 lbs per day because I went from eating huge meals and snacks to a liquid diet.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all for your help!
> > > > Lisa
> > > > New Providence, NJ
> > > > 260
> > > > 219
> > > > 140
> > > >
> > > > --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "Victoria" <afterwls@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > @Lisa:
> > > > >
> > > > > If your procedure is so cutting edge, I'd think your surgeon should take more interest in your progress. Have you consulted your surgeon about your plateau issue?
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
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2. This is hard at times!
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:37 pm ((PDT))
HI friends,
Since many of you had your WLS years ago, I'm sure you've been where I'm at. 4 months post surgery and I think about food way too often. I have mental arguements with myself in the supermarket and in the evening. I have to talk myself out of buying foods that aren't good for me now.
I am grateful that I don't have children or a husband because I don't have to cook for others. Actually I like to cook but don't like cooking for one so I eat out often. I started reading food labels years ago and I'm even more conscious since I had surgery.
I do manage to keep busy but I still have way too much free time on my hands. I am a compulsive overeater who prefers AA to OA. Thank God I have friends who share my foods issues and thank God this group is here. I don't want to deny myself everything because I'll get a case of the f*** its. Thanks to 21 years of recovery,
I've been unemployed for a year and searching for a job in this economy is frustrating, thus I want to eat.I have quite a bit of personal insight but it still sucks not being able to eat what I want. It's particularly hard when I'm home all afternoon and at night. I KNOW these urges will pass but I needed to share them. I am thrilled with my weight loss and I KNOW having WLS was the right decision.
Thanks for listening.
Lisa
New Providence, NJ
260
217
140
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3. Anyone had the ROSE Procedure?
Posted by: "ask and i shall tell" taylor5179@yahoo.com taylor5179
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:08 pm ((PDT))
I am curious as if anyone knows or has had the ROSE Procedure.
I would like information on this.
I have had a major struggle with my weight in the past 2 years. I am 7 years post op and starting weight was 380. I got down to 135 pounds and then maintained at 145-150.
2 Years ago I was dignosed with Breast Cancer and I have went up to as much as 190 pounds. Mainly from the meds I was on. I continued to exercise as much as possible but I can't get the weight back off. I read an article from the Hospital here in Tacoma and they do what is called the ROSE procedure.
From my understanding they go in and put a band around your new stomach (old for me now).
I am curious as if anyone has heard of this.
Thanks in advance,
Annette
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