Monday, July 6, 2009

[Serious-Weight-Watchers] Digest Number 12093

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Back From Vacation
From: cmurphy40353

2a. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
From: cmurphy40353
2b. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
From: cmurphy40353
2c. Grr...why do I do this?!
From: kristal sherman
2d. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
From: Tammy

3a. My Sunday and My Today
From: cmurphy40353
3b. Re: My Sunday and My Today
From: Kelley Perrigin
3c. Re: My Sunday and My Today
From: cmurphy40353
3d. Re: My Sunday and My Today
From: cmurphy40353

4a. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
From: SueW
4b. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
From: cmurphy40353
4c. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
From: cmurphy40353
4d. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
From: Tammy

5. (no subject)
From: Michelle Agrela

6a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
From: shenoa@sbcglobal.net
6b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
From: McAmy Adair
6c. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
From: Faye Ridpath

7.1. Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
From: Laurie Goodrich OBrien
7.2. Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
From: cmurphy40353

8. Need your vote
From: galen_oea

9a. Re: Weigh Today
From: cmurphy40353

10. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/6/2009, 12:15 pm
From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com

11. My Decadant Low Point Treat
From: Faye Ridpath

12a. Re: my vacation
From: Tammy

13. Reminder: Trim Your Posts, 7/6/2009, 5:00 pm
From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com


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1a. Re: Back From Vacation
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:06 am ((PDT))

You "blew it" but then got right back on track. I say that is not failure but success. And the fact you are home and your mind is still on the WW track is another huge success. You did great.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, "Kristen" <highlander-k


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2a. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:20 am ((PDT))

Joan,

I understand what you mean about being "almost ready to commit" and getting geared up for this. (My sister joined WW 6 months before I did, and it took me that long to get myself "ready to commit".) Successfully changing your lifestyle is completely a brain/mind thing. (Hence my key word "decision"). Right now you are in the process of convincing your mind that it wants to do this. Keep reading posts and thinking about WHY you want/need to make the changes--what the pay-off will be. When you have convinced your mind that "the hard" of making the changes is a better trade off than "the hard" of living in your current body, then you will be ready to begin.

Let me caution you, however, to not convince yourself that every "personal issue" has to be dealt with before you can begin -- sometimes that can be a real excuse or crutch to never begin. Just be honest with yourself and evaluate whether that is the case for you or not.

I look forward to hearing from you again when you DECIDE to commit and you tell us whatthat is going to look like for you.

Cyndi M in Kentucky


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2b. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:25 am ((PDT))

Great to hear that, Jen! You know you can do it--you've done it before. Just make that same DECISION every day and every time temptation throws itself at you.

We all have complete control over whether we succeed or fail at making this new life for ourselves.

I'm proud of you and look forward to hearing how you are doing REGULARLY.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, Jen <jenstk06@...> wrote:
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> Thank you everyone, I needed to read all of these. I was the one who decided to eat it; no one made me, it was all my choice.
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> So, I'm making the choice and deciding that I am done with it all, all of it. I dropped 50lbs in less than 6 months and honestly it took a LOT of hard work and turning down a lot of foods that were triggers for me. This time it's been 9 months and as of last Friday I'm up .5 a pound from my starting weight in October, how utterly ridiculous!!!
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> *~Jen~*
> My Blog: http://healthymamato3.blogspot.com/
> Family Blog: http://pabstfamilyjs.blogspot.com/
> Healthy Mama's Weight Loss Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hot_MamasWLC/
> 188/188.5/130
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> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, chiptress1 <jpt@...> wrote:
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> From: chiptress1 <jpt@...>
> Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
> To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 6:50 AM
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> Cyndi!!  Bore us??  wow... as I have said before... You completely inspire me.  And I love the way that you are so accountable for your behavior.  I am almost ready to commit myself back to ww.  I've had a few personal things going on that I needed to address 1st... but I have been reading everyones posts in order to gear up.  I just know me... and this is a good way for me to begin.  I have to lose approx 45 lbs or so. You inspire me so much.. I just love your honesty.
> (((( Joan, Hamptons, NY ))))
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> --- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, "cmurphy40353" <cyndimurphy1@> wrote:
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> > Laura, Jen, Margie . . .
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> > Laura -- I am proud of you for not giving yourself permission to just chuck it all way and give up. 
> >
> > Despite how my earlier post to Laurie of Michigan might make it seem, I completely understand what you guys are talking about.  I lost 100 pounds in 1 year (celebrated it on 1/8/09), but then just took off the last 21 pounds as of Thursday.  So the last 21 pounds took me 6 months!!  Why?? 
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> > I know exactly why - because I DECIDED to relax and not be so strict.  Then I too often DECIDED to go ahead and eat what I knew would be way too many points and/or trigger me to eat more poor choices.  I too often DECIDED to give myself permission to eat what in the year before I easily said "NO" to.  And I paid for it. . .
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> > Thursday a week ago, I DECIDED I was done playing with 5 pounds (which I had been doing for 2 months!) and I stayed STRICTLY on program for the next week.  I weighed in and hit my goal weight exactly.  Then on Friday . . . are you ready for this . . . yesterday I must admit I DECIDED to eat whatever was enticing me.  Actually I guess I DECIDED to be enticed first and then I DECIDED to say "yes" to temptation and finally I DECIDED to put it in my mouth.  I DECIDED to eat without paying attention or counting points and to just eat. 
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> > I went to bed feeling disappointed in myself and knowing I couldn't do that again today.  I got up and DECIDED to weigh myself and face the awful music -- up 7 pounds.  How does a person do that in a day and a half? ? ? You DECIDED TO!!  Anyway, I DECIDED not to cry about it and instead DECIDED to go do my 3.2 mile jog.  I felt like a tub of lard and had to walk probably 3/4-mile of it (mostly up the hills), but it helped.  Then I DECIDED to do what I knew to do that was follow the program strictly.  Make myself accountable to someone -- thus I have been busy writing on this site several times today.  I will turn the stupidity of yesterday around and if it doesn't all come off by Thursday weigh-in well that's only the completely just price I will have to pay.  I can't complaint because it was what I DECIDED I would deal with it when I DECIDED to do what I knew I should NOT do. 
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> > It really is about DECISION and the more I think about it and write about it the more I know that is what has been key for me and can be key for ALL OF US.
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> > Hope I haven't been boring you guys or irritating you with my many messages today.  I have obviously needed to express myself. . . to make myself think about these things and put them down in black and white. 
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> > We can do this IF we DECIDE TO DO IT. . .
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> > Cyndi M in Kentucky
> > 267/146 (at meeting on Thursday -- my goal weight)/153 this morning on my scale after making terrible DECISIONS yesterday!!)
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2c. Grr...why do I do this?!
Posted by: "kristal sherman" kmw3000@yahoo.com kmw3000
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:46 am ((PDT))

Hi Jen-
 
I so understand!
 
Last week I was pefectly OP for the entire week. Then, the night before weigh-in we went to Souplantation. I can eat so healthy there and........I didn't. I ate and ate and ate.
 
I hate it - it's so frustrating!
 
Bottom line- we just have to get back on plan.
 
I hope it was a good weekend for you!
 
-Kristal


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2d. Re: Grr...why do I do this?!
Posted by: "Tammy" tammy362@verizon.net tami_v1
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:34 pm ((PDT))


Hi Jen,
I know what you mean. I have been having a few weeks like this
and it is just plain hard. I am back at my weightloss of 20 pounds down, but
now I am in a stand still.

Tammy

>I have been completely and 100% on track for the past few days, then we
>went out to dinner last night. My plan was to order a 6oz steak, house
>salad with dressing on the side and a baked potato with a little butter on
>the side, pack half of it up and only eat half last night...instead I got
>the house salad with ranch and when they brought my potato it had sour
>cream and butter on it, instead of sending it back, me the jackhole started
>eating. I ate every freaking thing!
>
> Fast forward to today, I got up early to attempt doing my 45 minute Turbo
> Jam DVD, I did 25 minutes and had to stop, I was so out of breath and
> sore, I couldn't do anymore. I thought, ok, good, I can get back on track
> and forget about last night...and then I took a shower and realized how
> hungry I was!!!
>
> My problem, I can't stop eating!! Seriously, I just want to eat crap and
> not anything remotely healthy, ARGH!!!!! What's done is done from this
> morning until now; I can only go on from here. I ruined breakfast and
> lunch with junk, I'm going to load up on water, make a fruit smoothie for
> snack later and then have a big ol' salad for dinner tonight and pray that
> the scale is 1/2 way decent to me in the morning...
>
>
> *~Jen~*
> My Blog:http://healthymamato3.blogspot.com/
> Family Blog: http://pabstfamilyjs.blogspot.com/
> Healthy Mama's Weight Loss
> Group:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hot_MamasWLC/
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3a. My Sunday and My Today
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:32 am ((PDT))

After writing several messages on Saturday I was silent yesterday, but I can report having a good "on program" day. I made good DECISIONS on and said no to temptation and/or giving myself permission to be tempted--from breakfast until bedtime. That feels so good.

I think for me that to maintain my weight loss/goal weight I am going to have to remember every day to DECIDE I want to maintain and that to decide otherwise will guarantee the weight comes back on. For me there can be no relaxation of the will. To relax my will/determination is to doom myself--to guarantee gaining the weight back. I have to face that fact fully and own it. So today I have DECIDED to remain at full alert and make choices that will guarantee me success.

Cyndi M in Kentucky


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3b. Re: My Sunday and My Today
Posted by: "Kelley Perrigin" tinychilover@gmail.com kperrigin
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 6:16 am ((PDT))

Way to go Cyndi! That is what I have to consciously do every day to
continue toward my goal. I do know that this is a lifestyle change that I
will be on for the rest of my life even when I reach goal. To do like you
and assure I don't gain back. Goal is probably a little over a year away so
I definitely and not going to waste 3 years of work.

Kelley

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM, cmurphy40353 <cyndimurphy1@att.net> wrote:

> After writing several messages on Saturday I was silent yesterday, but I
> can report having a good "on program" day. I made good DECISIONS on and
> said no to temptation and/or giving myself permission to be tempted--from
> breakfast until bedtime. That feels so good.
>
> I think for me that to maintain my weight loss/goal weight I am going to
> have to remember every day to DECIDE I want to maintain and that to decide
> otherwise will guarantee the weight comes back on. For me there can be no
> relaxation of the will. To relax my will/determination is to doom
> myself--to guarantee gaining the weight back. I have to face that fact
> fully and own it. So today I have DECIDED to remain at full alert and make
> choices that will guarantee me success.
>
> Cyndi M in Kentucky
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--
If I were the person I wanted to be, what would that person do?

If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always
gotten.

"The only difference between stumbling blocks and steppingstones is the way
in which we use them." Anonymous

If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you can
become it.....William Arthur Ward

"Challenges make you discover things about yourself that you never really
knew. They're what make the instrument stretch — what makes you go beyond
the norm." – Cicely Tyson

"Physical fitness can neither be achieved through wishful thinking, nor
by outright purchase." - Joseph Pilates

"The miracle isn't that I finished. The miracle is that I had the courage to
start." ~John "the Penguin" Bingham

You have a choice: You can throw in the towel, or you can use it to wipe the
sweat off your face.

'Greatness is not in where we stand, but in what direction we are moving. We
must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it -- but sail we
must and not drift, nor lie at anchor."-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

"Hold yourself responsible for a higher standard than anybody else expects
of you. Never excuse yourself." - Henry Ward Beecher, American clergyman
and author (1813-1887)

"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows it must outrun the
fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up.
It knows that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will
starve. It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle when the sun
comes up you'd better be running. (But, unless you're a runner, you won't
understand.)" -Anon

"It only takes one person to change your life - - You." -- Ruth Casey

Failure is not falling down, it's refusing to get up.

"Happiness is in the heart, not in the circumstances."
Anonymous

300/203/130


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3c. Re: My Sunday and My Today
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:53 am ((PDT))

I copied and pasted into my Weight Watchers Inspiration file. Thanks!

I refuse to waste my success by choosing to reject the truth about how to hold onto success.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, Kelley Perrigin <tinychilover@...> wrote:
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> Way to go Cyndi! That is what I have to consciously do every day to
> continue toward my goal. I do know that this is a lifestyle change that I
> will be on for the rest of my life even when I reach goal. To do like you
> and assure I don't gain back. Goal is probably a little over a year away so
> I definitely and not going to waste 3 years of work.
>
> Kelley
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3d. Re: My Sunday and My Today
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:23 am ((PDT))

Thanks Kelley!

I copied and pasted your collection of quotes into my Weight Watchers Inspiration file. They are great.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, Kelley Perrigin <tinychilover@...> wrote:
>
> Way to go Cyndi! That is what I have to consciously do every day to
> continue toward my goal. I do know that this is a lifestyle change that I
> will be on for the rest of my life even when I reach goal. To do like you
> and assure I don't gain back. Goal is probably a little over a year away so
> I definitely and not going to waste 3 years of work.
>
> Kelley
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM, cmurphy40353 <cyndimurphy1@...> wrote:
>
> > After writing several messages on Saturday I was silent yesterday, but I
> > can report having a good "on program" day. I made good DECISIONS on and
> > said no to temptation and/or giving myself permission to be tempted--from
> > breakfast until bedtime. That feels so good.
> >
> > I think for me that to maintain my weight loss/goal weight I am going to
> > have to remember every day to DECIDE I want to maintain and that to decide
> > otherwise will guarantee the weight comes back on. For me there can be no
> > relaxation of the will. To relax my will/determination is to doom
> > myself--to guarantee gaining the weight back. I have to face that fact
> > fully and own it. So today I have DECIDED to remain at full alert and make
> > choices that will guarantee me success.
> >
> > Cyndi M in Kentucky
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> --
> If I were the person I wanted to be, what would that person do?
>
> If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always
> gotten.
>
> "The only difference between stumbling blocks and steppingstones is the way
> in which we use them." Anonymous
>
> If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you can
> become it.....William Arthur Ward
>
> "Challenges make you discover things about yourself that you never really
> knew. They're what make the instrument stretch — what makes you go beyond
> the norm." – Cicely Tyson
>
> "Physical fitness can neither be achieved through wishful thinking, nor
> by outright purchase." - Joseph Pilates
>
> "The miracle isn't that I finished. The miracle is that I had the courage to
> start." ~John "the Penguin" Bingham
>
> You have a choice: You can throw in the towel, or you can use it to wipe the
> sweat off your face.
>
> 'Greatness is not in where we stand, but in what direction we are moving. We
> must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it -- but sail we
> must and not drift, nor lie at anchor."-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
>
> "Hold yourself responsible for a higher standard than anybody else expects
> of you. Never excuse yourself." - Henry Ward Beecher, American clergyman
> and author (1813-1887)
>
> "Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows it must outrun the
> fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up.
> It knows that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will
> starve. It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle when the sun
> comes up you'd better be running. (But, unless you're a runner, you won't
> understand.)" -Anon
>
> "It only takes one person to change your life - - You." -- Ruth Casey
>
> Failure is not falling down, it's refusing to get up.
>
> "Happiness is in the heart, not in the circumstances."
> Anonymous
>
> 300/203/130
>
>
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4a. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
Posted by: "SueW" gswidemark@cox.net gswidemark
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:29 am ((PDT))

> > Cyndi M in Kentucky
> > 267.4/146/146 --- MADE GOAL TONIGHT!!!
> >
> > 121.4 pounds gone and never to be seen again!!!!
> >


That is sooo inspirational especially since you and I started at the same weight.... wow.... very very cool!!!!

hugs,
SueW
267/188/180 (doctor set goal)
Thank you Weight Watchers!
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4b. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:46 am ((PDT))

You are so close to goal! Wonderful! I hope you don't do like I did and "play around" with 5 pounds for 2 months. Just keep doing what you are doing now and those last pounds will come off like the others. Awesome.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, "SueW" <gswidemark@...> wrote:
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> > > Cyndi M in Kentucky
> > > 267.4/146/146 --- MADE GOAL TONIGHT!!!
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> > > 121.4 pounds gone and never to be seen again!!!!
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> That is sooo inspirational especially since you and I started at the same weight.... wow.... very very cool!!!!
>
> hugs,
> SueW
> 267/188/180 (doctor set goal)
> Thank you Weight Watchers!
> http://cheesewhiz.org/sue-compare-jun2009sm.jpg
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4c. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:28 am ((PDT))

Way to go Sheila!! Losing and maintaining the loss ANY amount of weight is a challenge and you met it and found VICTORY!!

Because YOU did it, we all have real HOPE that we can do it too!

Cyndi M in Kentucky

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> Shelia -
>> When I started back up in January I was up at 146.6. Last night I hit 134.2lbs.
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> My total weight loss combined has been over 50lbs.
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> GOOD LUCK EVERYONE! YOU CAN DO IT!~!~!~
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4d. Re: I MADE GOAL!!!
Posted by: "Tammy" tammy362@verizon.net tami_v1
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:00 pm ((PDT))


Congrat's Cyndi!!

Tammy


> HELLO EVERYONE!!!
>
> After DECIDING to stop playing with 5 pounds, I stuck strictly to program
> this week and lost 4.8 pounds and hit my goal weight EXACTLY!!!!
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> I screamed and people clapped. I knew I would be close tonight, but I was
> not at all confident I would hit it when I stepped on the scale. It was
> thrilling to see that 146!!
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> My sister leader was not even there! Tracy was still on her way to the
> meeting after leaving her son and daughter-in-law 30 miles away in a
> hospital having their first baby (her 2nd grandson). She had been with
> them since 5 o'clock yesterday afternoon, then had to leave to get the WW
> meeting because there just are not substitutes available. She left an hour
> BEFORE her grandson was born!! With about 7 minutes left in the weigh-in
> period, I let one of the receptionists weigh me and it was exactly 146
> pounds!!!
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> Tracy did get there right before the "meeting" started. I hugged and asked
> if she had heard about the baby (I had but her cell phone had died before
> she left the hospital -- she told me yes she had just found out. I hugged
> her and then I told her that I made goal -- she hugged me -- and then
> starting crying. Another lady told her she had made Lifetime tonight and
> Tracy said, "This is why I came tonight!" Isn't she awesome!
>
> So it took me 18 full months to lose 121.4 (I've played with 5 pounds for
> 2 of those months) but I MADE GOAL!!! YIPPEE!! HOORAY!! I AM SO PROUD OF
> ME!!!
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> I just had to get home and share this news with you guys--people who have
> helped me believe in myself and believe that losing 120+ pounds was very
> doable. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
>
> Cyndi M in Kentucky
> 267.4/146/146 --- MADE GOAL TONIGHT!!!
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> 121.4 pounds gone and never to be seen again!!!!
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Posted by: "Michelle Agrela" michelleagrela@yahoo.com michelleagrela
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 6:05 am ((PDT))

5 hours at the zoo chasing a 3 year old.  LOL

Michelle Agrela

You can't change what you don't acknowledge.


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6a. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
Posted by: "shenoa@sbcglobal.net" shenoa@sbcglobal.net shenoa@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:48 am ((PDT))

Good morning!
Well, yesterday was a remarkable one - five of the seven of us who have been training together from Alameda, Ca WW completed our first 5K!
We're scheduling more!
I personally do 50 minutes of circuit training every (very early)day and then walk 3/4 miles.
Shen
247.50/198/160
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6b. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
Posted by: "McAmy Adair" readshoes@yahoo.com readshoes
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:29 pm ((PDT))


Hi,  45 minute on the Cybex crosstrainer.  About 30 minutes on the machines.   amy


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6c. Re: Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:36 pm ((PDT))

That's great, Shen!

~~~Faye~~~

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM, shenoa@sbcglobal.net
<shenoa@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Good morning!
> Well, yesterday was a remarkable one - five of the seven of us who have
> been training together from Alameda, Ca WW completed our first 5K!
> We're scheduling more!
> I personally do 50 minutes of circuit training every (very early)day and
> then walk 3/4 miles.
> Shen
> 247.50/198/160
> 4 miles.
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7.1. Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
Posted by: "Laurie Goodrich OBrien" lgobrien@charter.net lgobrien75
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:50 am ((PDT))

Cyndi and everyone else.

Thanks for the "kick in the pants". I really needed that! When you wrote
that I had 70 pounds to lose, it took me back for a couple minutes. As
bizarre as it seems, I hadn't even done the math to see how far out of
control I was. It was always, 20, then 30 pounds to lose. How did it get
to 70?

You are so right about DECIDING. I guess my first decision was to actually
make the doctor appointment. I'm so embarrassed to go. He is a good doctor
(he is also my mom and my sister's doctor) and he is adamant about NOT
prescribing meds for weight loss. He knows it has to be a lifestyle
change.

Believe it or not, I am lifetime at Weight Watchers. I LOVE the program,
it's just coming up with a PLAN. During the winter (tax season - I work for
a CPA firm) I was so good about cooking meals on Sundays to put in the
freezer, this time of year not at all. I don't like to cook either.

So, maybe all of you can direct me to a website or help me with some EASY
summer recipes. We had company all weekend and a big party here on the 4th.
Sent a bunch of the food home with family when they left. We have the other
side of the family party this coming Saturday. It's not so much the party I
have a hard time with, but the day to day planning.

So, thanks to all of you for your words of wisdom and I WILL go to the
doctor tomorrow, face the music and start planning.

Laurie from Michigan

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cmurphy40353
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:05 AM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan


Laurie,

DECIDE to take control.

DECIDE to feel better.

DECIDE to go to WW EVERY WEEK.

DECIDE that you are WORTHY of feeling better.

DECIDE that you WILL be able to play and interact with your first grandbaby.

Success is a DECISION.

You have decided that paying attention to what you are eating is too much
trouble. You have decided that eating what you want right now is more
pleasurable than seeing and feeling the weight come off.

I hope I am not coming across as "mean" or confrontational. But from a woman
who was where you are 18 months ago (only in a deeper hole because I weighed
60 pounds MORE than you), I know what it takes to succeed at weight loss --
it takes a DECISION. WW provides excellent tools and knowledge; YOU have to
DECIDE to learn how to use them and then TO USE THEM.

You really already have what it takes to lose the 70 pounds you want to lose
-- you just have to DECIDE to use it.

Let me share a few of the things I did that helped me -- maybe they will
help you too.

When I finally DECIDED I was going to lose weight and find health, I became
very public with it. I told lots of people my big goal -- to to lose 100
pounds in a year. I DECIDED everyone could SEE that I needed to lose 100
pounds, so why not tell them that was my goal. I am a minister's wife and I
knew people would start noticing and want to ask me about losing weight, so
I was up front and open about it thus giving people permission to make
comments and ask all they wanted. One of the main reasons I needed to do
this was to have the "positive peer pressure" of knowing people were paying
attention. It helped me. That might not be for everyone, but it definitely
helped me.

I also DECIDED that I would be very strict about the WW program. For me that
meant eating only my WPA and some of my AP (when I finally started
exercising). For me this helped because it kept me from "playing around"
with the points too much. And DECIDING to really be strict helped because I
just didn't give myself permission to eat what wasn't on program/my points.

I also DECIDED that I wouldn't cook supper for me separately than the
family. I used recipes from online etc. and figured out how to adjust some
family favorites (e-tools) and cooked a family meal was WW/points friendly.
I did make use of frozen entrees when we needed something fast and I would
let the kids eat say hotdogs and I would eat a Smart One, but that became
the exception rather than rule.

I also DECIDED to think about my weight loss in terms of 10 pounds -- not
100. I celebrated (w/o food) for each 10 pounds--told the WW group and often
asked for a bravo (my leader is great about being generous with bravos).
Maybe you could think in terms of 7 pounds at a time?

Another thing I DECIDED to do was thing about other positive results I
wanted to result from the weight loss. Simple things: tie my shoes wo
putting legs up on bed, get up from chair w/o struggling to straighten out
knees and hips, to walk a mile in less than 15 min. etc.

I would suggest writing down some of the tangible things you want to have in
your life as a result of weight loss. Be very specific. Share them with
someone -- us or a personal friend, husband, kids, etc. Put them on the
Fridge. Look at them regularly.

Write down some interval goals -- 5%, 10 pounds, walk a mile in ? time.
Write down these interval goals and then check them off as they are
achieved. Tell us what they are and let us know when you accomplish one.

So Laurie, DECIDE to do it. DECIDE that you want to do it and DECIDE that
you CAN do it. DECIDE to learn what it takes to succeed and then DECIDE to
DO it.

Laurie, I am proud of you for making that appointment. If he is a good
doctor and he actually is encouraging you, then GO SEE HIM. I have NEVER had
a doctor even suggest that I lose weight (and I was 120+ overweight). I
think most doctors just think it is useless.

You have 6 months before that baby is born. I PROMISE if you DECIDE to work
the program and you DO work the program you will feel like a NEW person when
that baby comes. You may not be at your goal weight yet, you will feel soooo
good and so comfortable in your body. For me the pain of losing weight was
not near as bad as the pain of staying fat. It only made sense to DECIDE to
stop living in that pain and DO the work to get my health/fitness back.
Won't you join me Laurie. . . it is soooo worth the effort. I promise.

Cyndi M in Kentucky
267/146/146 -- at goal.

My scheduled dr appointment is Tuesday,
> July 7th. I know the dr only wants to help me, I need to be OPEN to his
> ideas.
>
>
> Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers, I need a couple extra
tonight!
>
>
>
> Laurie
>
> 212/206/150
>
>
>
> From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kathy
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:27 PM
> To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> WOW Laurie you live in one of the most beautiful areas of Michigan! Enjoy
> Cherry Festival!
>
> Kathy in MI
> 290/285/140
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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7.2. Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:09 am ((PDT))

Laurie,

Yes, your first decision was making the doctor's appointment. GREAT! Acknowledge that.

You also DECIDED to send the party food out of the house -- great decision.

You also DECIDED to accept "the kick in the pants" -- great decision.

You also DECIDED you need to make some plans -- Great decision.

Now DECIDE to ACT and begin actually making the plans.

Now DECIDE that your health and well being are WORTH the time it takes you to make success plans. It is not a waste of time. There is very, very, very little that is more important than that right now. You might think that sounds/feels selfish, but its not. It really is a matter of life and death -- the quality and length of YOUR life.

Now if you get bogged down easily and planning chores that you think should take you 30 min. or an hour become 2 to 3 hour marathons, then maybe make a list of what needs to get done (find recipe site/books, print recipes, decide which to prepare this week, make grocery list) and then give yourself a time limit for each task).

To get started RIGHT AWAY -- go the grocery store and buy some Smart Ones or Lean Cuisine, etc. Frozen stir fry vegetables, chicken breasts, Progresso Soup, some light bread and eggs, and some fresh fruit and vegetables. You can have a really good week on just that.

I will share some recipes if you need some -- definitely easy and basic. Go to WeightWatchers.com and use their recipe files or just do an online search using weight watcher recipes. You will be amazed at what you can find. I print off recipes and then store them in a notebook in page protectors.

Tell yourself your worth the effort, Laurie and then ACT on that truth.

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Goodrich OBrien" <lgobrien@...> wrote:
>
> Cyndi and everyone else.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the "kick in the pants". I really needed that! When you wrote
> that I had 70 pounds to lose, it took me back for a couple minutes. As
> bizarre as it seems, I hadn't even done the math to see how far out of
> control I was. It was always, 20, then 30 pounds to lose. How did it get
> to 70?
>
>
>
> You are so right about DECIDING. I guess my first decision was to actually
> make the doctor appointment. I'm so embarrassed to go. He is a good doctor
> (he is also my mom and my sister's doctor) and he is adamant about NOT
> prescribing meds for weight loss. He knows it has to be a lifestyle
> change.
>
>
>
> Believe it or not, I am lifetime at Weight Watchers. I LOVE the program,
> it's just coming up with a PLAN. During the winter (tax season - I work for
> a CPA firm) I was so good about cooking meals on Sundays to put in the
> freezer, this time of year not at all. I don't like to cook either.
>
>
>
> So, maybe all of you can direct me to a website or help me with some EASY
> summer recipes. We had company all weekend and a big party here on the 4th.
> Sent a bunch of the food home with family when they left. We have the other
> side of the family party this coming Saturday. It's not so much the party I
> have a hard time with, but the day to day planning.
>
>
>
> So, thanks to all of you for your words of wisdom and I WILL go to the
> doctor tomorrow, face the music and start planning.
>
>
>
> Laurie from Michigan
>
> From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cmurphy40353
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:05 AM
> To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Laurie,
>
> DECIDE to take control.
>
> DECIDE to feel better.
>
> DECIDE to go to WW EVERY WEEK.
>
> DECIDE that you are WORTHY of feeling better.
>
> DECIDE that you WILL be able to play and interact with your first grandbaby.
>
> Success is a DECISION.
>
> You have decided that paying attention to what you are eating is too much
> trouble. You have decided that eating what you want right now is more
> pleasurable than seeing and feeling the weight come off.
>
> I hope I am not coming across as "mean" or confrontational. But from a woman
> who was where you are 18 months ago (only in a deeper hole because I weighed
> 60 pounds MORE than you), I know what it takes to succeed at weight loss --
> it takes a DECISION. WW provides excellent tools and knowledge; YOU have to
> DECIDE to learn how to use them and then TO USE THEM.
>
> You really already have what it takes to lose the 70 pounds you want to lose
> -- you just have to DECIDE to use it.
>
> Let me share a few of the things I did that helped me -- maybe they will
> help you too.
>
> When I finally DECIDED I was going to lose weight and find health, I became
> very public with it. I told lots of people my big goal -- to to lose 100
> pounds in a year. I DECIDED everyone could SEE that I needed to lose 100
> pounds, so why not tell them that was my goal. I am a minister's wife and I
> knew people would start noticing and want to ask me about losing weight, so
> I was up front and open about it thus giving people permission to make
> comments and ask all they wanted. One of the main reasons I needed to do
> this was to have the "positive peer pressure" of knowing people were paying
> attention. It helped me. That might not be for everyone, but it definitely
> helped me.
>
> I also DECIDED that I would be very strict about the WW program. For me that
> meant eating only my WPA and some of my AP (when I finally started
> exercising). For me this helped because it kept me from "playing around"
> with the points too much. And DECIDING to really be strict helped because I
> just didn't give myself permission to eat what wasn't on program/my points.
>
> I also DECIDED that I wouldn't cook supper for me separately than the
> family. I used recipes from online etc. and figured out how to adjust some
> family favorites (e-tools) and cooked a family meal was WW/points friendly.
> I did make use of frozen entrees when we needed something fast and I would
> let the kids eat say hotdogs and I would eat a Smart One, but that became
> the exception rather than rule.
>
> I also DECIDED to think about my weight loss in terms of 10 pounds -- not
> 100. I celebrated (w/o food) for each 10 pounds--told the WW group and often
> asked for a bravo (my leader is great about being generous with bravos).
> Maybe you could think in terms of 7 pounds at a time?
>
> Another thing I DECIDED to do was thing about other positive results I
> wanted to result from the weight loss. Simple things: tie my shoes wo
> putting legs up on bed, get up from chair w/o struggling to straighten out
> knees and hips, to walk a mile in less than 15 min. etc.
>
> I would suggest writing down some of the tangible things you want to have in
> your life as a result of weight loss. Be very specific. Share them with
> someone -- us or a personal friend, husband, kids, etc. Put them on the
> Fridge. Look at them regularly.
>
> Write down some interval goals -- 5%, 10 pounds, walk a mile in ? time.
> Write down these interval goals and then check them off as they are
> achieved. Tell us what they are and let us know when you accomplish one.
>
> So Laurie, DECIDE to do it. DECIDE that you want to do it and DECIDE that
> you CAN do it. DECIDE to learn what it takes to succeed and then DECIDE to
> DO it.
>
> Laurie, I am proud of you for making that appointment. If he is a good
> doctor and he actually is encouraging you, then GO SEE HIM. I have NEVER had
> a doctor even suggest that I lose weight (and I was 120+ overweight). I
> think most doctors just think it is useless.
>
> You have 6 months before that baby is born. I PROMISE if you DECIDE to work
> the program and you DO work the program you will feel like a NEW person when
> that baby comes. You may not be at your goal weight yet, you will feel soooo
> good and so comfortable in your body. For me the pain of losing weight was
> not near as bad as the pain of staying fat. It only made sense to DECIDE to
> stop living in that pain and DO the work to get my health/fitness back.
> Won't you join me Laurie. . . it is soooo worth the effort. I promise.
>
> Cyndi M in Kentucky
> 267/146/146 -- at goal.
>
> My scheduled dr appointment is Tuesday,
> > July 7th. I know the dr only wants to help me, I need to be OPEN to his
> > ideas.
> >
> >
> > Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers, I need a couple extra
> tonight!
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> > 212/206/150
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kathy
> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:27 PM
> > To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Good morning-Laurie in Michigan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WOW Laurie you live in one of the most beautiful areas of Michigan! Enjoy
> > Cherry Festival!
> >
> > Kathy in MI
> > 290/285/140
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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8. Need your vote
Posted by: "galen_oea" galen_oea@yahoo.com galen_oea
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:02 am ((PDT))

Need your vote

Please help me to support the efforts of a fellow Weight Watcher.
She has lost 190 lbs total so far following Weight Watchers and adding exercise through CURVES.
She is now in a CURVES competition and needs our vote!
You can vote once and forget it or vote once every day like me!

Go to this page to vote

http://tinyurl.com/BASHFUL67

Thank You so much
Galen
galen@thenottypical.com
http://www.thenottypical.com

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9a. Re: Weigh Today
Posted by: "cmurphy40353" cyndimurphy1@att.net cmurphy40353
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:29 am ((PDT))

You are absolutely right THAT'S GREAT! Any loss is a VICTORY!!! Keep it up, Kim!

Cyndi M in Kentucky

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, "kimkimhunterhunter" <headhunter@...> wrote:
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> Hey just wanted to let everyone know that- I lost 1 pound. Thats great. Hey, I am losing.
>

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10. Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did! , 7/6/2009, 12:15 pm
Posted by: "Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com" Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 11:56 am ((PDT))

Reminder from: Serious-Weight-Watchers Yahoo! Group
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Our Daily Exercise Thread: Share What You Did!
Monday July 6, 2009
12:15 pm - 12:30 pm
(This event repeats every day.)

Notes:
Did you know that daily exercise:

Can help to reverse pre-diabetes?
Can reduce your cholesterol and triglycerides?
Can increase your HDL, the good cholesterol, and lower your LDL, the bad cholesterol?
Can strengthen your heart and lungs?
May prevent osteoporosis?
Can reduce your risk of stroke?
Can help you sleep better?
Can help with depression?
Can lengthen your life?
Can help promote and maintain weight loss?

What exercise did you do today?

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11. My Decadant Low Point Treat
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 1:46 pm ((PDT))

Today Marcella and I went to the mall. Friday we had been there and I had
got Bob a book I thought he might like at WaldenBooks but it turned out he
already read it so I went back to see if they'd let me exchange it for
another one. They did.

While there I decided to give Marcella a treat and take her to Godiva
choclitier. I didn't plan to get anything for myself cuz I figured that was
sure killer for WW but Marcella kept begging me to get something too.
Finally I saw something that looked like it could be ok, strawberry banana
kabab. It was strawberries and bananas on a skewer dipped in chocolate.
White or milk, I chose white. The lady was *so* nice too. I explained to her
I was on WW and counting points so I asked if I could get the NI for it (I
normally am so shy about that but this week I have been really good about
tracking and have learned if you track you *really* can apparantly eat
*anything* cuz according to our scale I am down 3 pounds- hope the one at WW
is the same) and she said they don't have a pamphlet that they hand out but
she did have a really big binder so she asked what I needed to know and I
told her what I needed to calculate my points and she read it off to me.
That was nice of her, I thought. And guess what? It was only 3 points!

I wanted to bring Bob home a treat to thank him for being so sweet about
what I did Friday (spent way more money than I should have during my
mommy/daughter day with Marcella) I know lots of guys really yell over that
but he was sweet about it when I told him how sorry I was that I spent more
than I probably should have (especially at bill time!) but he said it was ok
he knows I do that and he was really sweet about it too. Plus Sunday morning
I had to be up at 4:30 cuz I had to be at work at 6 but Saturday night I
couldn't sleep and he knew it so he set his alarm too and stayed awake till
he was sure I woke up ok so I wouldn't be late. His one day to sleep in and
he did that for me. Isn't that sweet?

Ok this is getting long sorry but one last thing. Yesterday, I got myself a
podomoter that also counts calories so I could track my AP's better. But I
don't know this doesn't sound like it could be right at all. Here's what I
did today- I didn't do any actual exercise, but... We walked around the mall
doing the things I just said, we went to the library and I parked at the
very farthest parking spot and took the stairs instead of the elevator, and
we went to the grocery store so there's a bit of walking there too, and it
says I burnt 338 calories already. That seems high just for that. Do you
think that's right?

~~~Faye~~~


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12a. Re: my vacation
Posted by: "Tammy" tammy362@verizon.net tami_v1
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:24 pm ((PDT))


So happy for you Heidi! I am glad you are enjoying yourself.

Tammy


> Hi all! I am currently on vacation in the mountains of Virginina.
> Yes...brought the laptop so I can keep reading!
> The good news...yesterday was my trail ride at the horse stables. There
> was a clear sign that said the weight limit is 240lbs and they have a
> scale to weigh people. In my mind I was thinking,"They are going to look
> at me and think that we better weigh the fat chick. They will ask me and
> no one else to get on the scale." They did not say that, nor did they make
> me get on the scale. You did have to sign a waiver that said you were
> under 240lbs which I did. I was so glad once I got on the horse that I no
> longer had to worry about that and could enjoy this time with my sons.
> Whew! Doesnt stink to have to worry about those things!
> Yesterday was our first full day and we signed out the tennis courts..once
> in the morning and once in the evening. It was great to be able to run
> after the balls that were flying all over the place. I even was the one
> who volunteered to get the ones that went over the net! In the afternoon I
> walked home from the pool instead of going in the car like everyone else.
> It wasnt far, but uphill.
> I know there was lots of discussion about feeling depressed and beating
> ourselves up when we are not in control, but I can honestly say that when
> I stay on program, instead of being depressed, I am feeling the opposite!
> I feel in control and that makes me feel happy. So many things in life I
> cannot control, but if I can do this, I will feel better! Ok...gotta run.
> Have a nice day all! Heidi
> 273.8lbs/now 237.8lbs....down 36!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

>


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13. Reminder: Trim Your Posts, 7/6/2009, 5:00 pm
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Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:54 pm ((PDT))

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