Quick Weight Loss Tips

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pippylngstkng
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:37 AM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Keeping The Weight Off

"That's something you don't ever want to have to go through again,
right?
Never let go of the things you're feeling right now. Never forget the
struggle. Never forget the pain. Never, ever forget."

Another Amen! No more of that pain again. Of being confined to the
house because I was too ashamed to go out. Of struggling to take a
nice, hot, leisurely bath. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... not to mention having fun
with my grandkids! And having hope to see them all graduate and get
married and maybe even be a great grandma now. Where last year that
was definitely not a possibility. Something as simple as using the
restroom was such a struggle. And the thought of getting onto a plane
to go somewhere with my husband for our 25th was horrifying! It's too
late for that celebration. It's come and gone. But we now celebrate
every day liking ourselves for living healthy and trying to be around
for ourselves and our family as long as possible.

That is why I weigh myself every day to remind myself of my
commitment. If I see a gain of any denomination I am more dedicated
that day. I have so much to be thankful for now. WW and all of you are
at the top of the list.

Hugs, Deb

From: dodymand
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:58 PM
To: Serious-Weight- <mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Keeping The Weight Off

Once you've lost the weight, you need to learn how to keep it off.
Most people do gain the weight back after they lose it, because they
go right back to their old habits. As you get closer to your goal
weight, you will need to start easing into the lifestyle that you will
continue for the rest of your life. You will need to remember to keep
cutting out the biggest sources of blood sugar spikes, including
sugar, white flour, white rice, and potatoes. You will need to
continue consuming plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, healthy
seafood, and other lean proteins. And you will need to continue
getting some exercise.

Always remember that if you don't continue the lifestyle, you are
doomed to repeat everything you've just been through. You'll have to
deal with the pain of being overweight, the embarrassment you feel
when you go out in public, the difficulty losing the weight, the
aches, pains, and discomfort of being overweight, and all of those
other issues.

That's something you don't ever want to have to go through again,
right?
Never let go of the things you're feeling right now. Never forget the
struggle. Never forget the pain. Never, ever forget.

Once you let go, once you get past it and you move on, you cannot
forget. If you allow yourself to forget what it was like, you'll be
back on that road to obesity before you know it.

It's a good idea to keep a lot of photos of yourself before you lost
the weight. Keep a journal of how difficult your dieting is. Write
notes in it about how horrible you feel, how embarrassed you are, how
your life is miserable. Keep all of this together and look at it
regularly.

Yes, it will be painful to dredge up those memories of when you were
so unhealthy, but it will help you stay healthy. The emotional pain
you feel will be nothing compared to what your friends and family
would feel if they lost you because you had a heart attack or stroke
due to obesity, or the pain you would feel if you gained all of the
weight back.

Keep eating healthily. Keep exercising. Keep living the healthiest
life possible.

Never, ever forget
http://fatloss-
<http://fatloss-plans.blogspot.com/2009/07/keeping-weight-off.html>
plans.blogspot.com/2009/07/keeping-weight-off.html

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1d. Re: Keeping The Weight Off
Posted by: "Pippylngstkng" imonlyhumn@gmail.com pippylngstkg
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:28 am ((PDT))

Claudia, sorry that you are having a difficult day. I keep sugar free mints for the nibbles if I want something sweet. Or I cut up an apple and keep it in a ziplock. I grab a slice when I get the growlies. Whatever you munch on do it slooooooooooooowly. Control it. You can do this! And you are gonna love that bath!

Hugs, Deb

From: CLAUDIA
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:02 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Keeping The Weight Off

Claudia

http://cheesewhiz.org/sue-compare-jan2007-aug2009.jpg

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"That's something you don't ever want to have to go through again,
right?
Never let go of the things you're feeling right now. Never forget the
struggle. Never forget the pain. Never, ever forget."

Another Amen! No more of that pain again. Of being confined to the
house because I was too ashamed to go out. Of struggling to take a
nice, hot, leisurely bath. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... not to mention having fun
with my grandkids! And having hope to see them all graduate and get
married and maybe even be a great grandma now. Where last year that
was definitely not a possibility. Something as simple as using the
restroom was such a struggle. And the thought of getting onto a plane
to go somewhere with my husband for our 25th was horrifying! It's too
late for that celebration. It's come and gone. But we now celebrate
every day liking ourselves for living healthy and trying to be around
for ourselves and our family as long as possible.

That is why I weigh myself every day to remind myself of my
commitment. If I see a gain of any denomination I am more dedicated
that day. I have so much to be thankful for now. WW and all of you are
at the top of the list.

Hugs, Deb

Once you've lost the weight, you need to learn how to keep it off.
Most people do gain the weight back after they lose it, because they
go right back to their old habits. As you get closer to your goal
weight, you will need to start easing into the lifestyle that you will
continue for the rest of your life. You will need to remember to keep
cutting out the biggest sources of blood sugar spikes, including
sugar, white flour, white rice, and potatoes. You will need to
continue consuming plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, healthy
seafood, and other lean proteins. And you will need to continue
getting some exercise.

Always remember that if you don't continue the lifestyle, you are
doomed to repeat everything you've just been through. You'll have to
deal with the pain of being overweight, the embarrassment you feel
when you go out in public, the difficulty losing the weight, the
aches, pains, and discomfort of being overweight, and all of those
other issues.

That's something you don't ever want to have to go through again,
right?
Never let go of the things you're feeling right now. Never forget the
struggle. Never forget the pain. Never, ever forget.

Once you let go, once you get past it and you move on, you cannot
forget. If you allow yourself to forget what it was like, you'll be
back on that road to obesity before you know it.

It's a good idea to keep a lot of photos of yourself before you lost
the weight. Keep a journal of how difficult your dieting is. Write
notes in it about how horrible you feel, how embarrassed you are, how
your life is miserable. Keep all of this together and look at it
regularly.

Yes, it will be painful to dredge up those memories of when you were
so unhealthy, but it will help you stay healthy. The emotional pain
you feel will be nothing compared to what your friends and family
would feel if they lost you because you had a heart attack or stroke
due to obesity, or the pain you would feel if you gained all of the
weight back.

Keep eating healthily. Keep exercising. Keep living the healthiest
life possible.

Never, ever forget
http://fatloss-
<http://fatloss-plans.blogspot.com/2009/07/keeping-weight-off.html>
plans.blogspot.com/2009/07/keeping-weight-off.html

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2. keeping-weight-off
Posted by: "dewdw wdwdw" dodymand@yahoo.com dodymand
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:14 am ((PDT))

Once
you've lost the weight, you need to learn how to keep it off. Most
people do gain the weight back after they lose it, because they go
right back to their old habits. As
you get closer to your goal weight, you will need to start easing into
the lifestyle that you will continue for the rest of your life. You
will need to remember to keep cutting out the biggest sources of blood
sugar spikes, including sugar, white flour, white rice, and potatoes.
You will need to continue consuming plenty of fresh fruits and
vegetables, healthy seafood, and other lean proteins. And you will need
to continue getting some exercise.

Always
remember that if you don't continue the lifestyle, you are doomed to
repeat everything you've just been through. You'll have to deal with
the pain of being overweight, the embarrassment you feel when you go
out in public, the difficulty losing the weight, the aches, pains, and
discomfort of being overweight, and all of those other issues.
read more here

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3.1. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:14 am ((PDT))

Hi Sue, thanks for the welcome!

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SueW
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:59 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re:Babette, Newbie Here

>>> Just joined and thought I'd say "hi". I'm Babette, 45, and recently
joined

WW's AGAIN on 7-25-09. My goal is 160 and I'm going to see the distance!

My start weight this time was 260 ... but my highest all time weight was

411. I'm currently at 252. I hope to get to know you all! <<<<

Hi Babette! Wow you are keeping off a bunch of weight already!!! Congrats.
you are already a success.. Happy to meet you and will enjoy sharing the
rest of your weight loss journey!

Hugs,

SueW

267/182/180 (doctor set goal)

Thank you Weight Watchers!!!

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3.2. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:15 am ((PDT))

This is EXACTLY what I was saying Deb. :)

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pippylngstkng
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:25 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

I just saw that Kerri. And her explanation, I thought was a good one. And
very common, sadly, with many that we wish we could help. I rode a train
with a beautiful woman who prolly weighed all of 350 to 400 pounds. She ate
from the time that she sat in that seat, two of them by the way, until I got
off of the train 4 hours later. I'm serious! The entire time! While it was
very disconcerting cause I hadn't been on WW for all that long and still
struggling at times, I had to listen to her rattling package after package
of yummy looking treats. But my biggest reaction? Wanting to go hug her and
tell her that she is killing herself! So often we see people that are obese
and seem so sad. I know, I was one of them. So when they are wanting to help
themselves, it's wonderful and natural to support them and want the same for
them. But when they consistently slip day after day, hour after hour, and
blame everything or everyone but themselves it does get frustrating. I have
a neighbor who does the same thing. She is vicious in her blame of something
else that is causing her to keep gaining instead of losing when she is
supposed to be OP. You want to help but after a while you want to shake them
and yell......"it's not the reason!" That is what I meant and what I
continue to mean. She is playing at weight loss all the while totally off
the wagon and eating anything that she wants and blaming our wonderful
leader for her failure. FRUSTRATING! At least she does weigh in..... but
then disrupts because of her pouting about not losing enough or any.

I thought this was what Babette was saying and I still stand by my reply to
her. Amen Sistah! It is sad and yes......frustrating.

Deb

From: Kerri Coy
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:12 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Read the bottom of this. It says "so many people seem to be playing at
weight loss"./
----- Original Message -----
From: Pippylngstkng
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Spreading enthusiasm is what we want to do Kerri...... not sure what you are
saying. Trying to be encouraging and enthusiastic is what we want to be.
It's frustrating when we do and the ones that you are doing it to don't seem
to be ready or get it. Again, and again.. not saying on here. Saying in life
in general.

I have read from the owners, mods here that this group doesn't celebrate
going off program. Hence the serious title. If I am wrong then I stand
corrected and well........wrong. The enthusiasm includes suggestions on how
to stay OP to be successful. And when we are, then of course we are
enthusiastic in our celebrations with everyone that is! How does one "play"
with weight loss?

Deb

From: Kerri Coy
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:45 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

I am playing the devils advocate here, not to b e rude but I think we have
to support everyone, even those that are "playing" with weight loss. Can any
of us honestly say that this is the first time we have lost weight or tried
to lose weight or hit goal the first time? I have been at goal for about 4
years, but "played" at weight loss more times than I can count. We need to
spread the enthusiasm to all because maybe then it will help them out to
where they want to continue on their weight loss journey. Just my opinion

237/135/137

Kerri

----- Original Message -----
From: Pippylngstkng
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Amen Sistah! It is frustrating, when we are dedicated to living life again.
You want to spread that enthusiasm to all, but ya can't. And a smile back
attcha.

Deb

From: LBCreations
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:40 AM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Hey Deb! Yeah, I was attracted to the "serious" part of the title! So many
people I know seem to just be playing at weight loss and I find it
frustrating. Oh, and thanks for the welcome! *smiles*

Hugs,

Babette

<http://lbcreations.blogspot.com/> LBCreations - Designs by Babette

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Pippylngstkng
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:21 AM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Hey! I know you! LOL...

Welcome to SWW Babette. This is a terrific group that is "serious" about our
health and the WW program. They are a tremendous help to us to stay OP and
be successful with many successes as incentive. Enjoy your stay!

Hugs, Deb

From: LBCreations
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:46 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Hi there!

Hugs,

Babette

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3.3. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:15 am ((PDT))

Hi Again ... I live in Virginia Beach, VA and 7 years ago I lived in a small
town outside of Omaha, NE. I'm originally from New York though! :)

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
toddlermomof2@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:05 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

btw, Babette, long shot but you don't live in MD do you? Your name is
unusual and I knew a Babette who lived in MD about 7 years ago?? That
would be a small world

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3.4. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:15 am ((PDT))

Hi Juliana! Thanks so much ... it's a long road but a worthy one! Never
give up and you'll reach your goals! Set backs will happen, that's life.
The way to win is to not give up!! :)

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of juliana john
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:26 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re:Babette, Newbie Here

Hi babette,
Nice to meet you. Congrats on kicking some of that weight to the curb. I am
struggling right now but not giving up.

--- On Sun, 8/30/09, SueW <gswidemark@cox.net <mailto:gswidemark%40cox.net>
> wrote:

From: SueW <gswidemark@cox.net <mailto:gswidemark%40cox.net> >
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re:Babette, Newbie Here
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 5:59 PM

>>> Just joined and thought I'd say "hi". I'm Babette, 45, and recently
joined

WW's AGAIN on 7-25-09. My goal is 160 and I'm going to see the distance!

My start weight this time was 260 ... but my highest all time weight was

411. I'm currently at 252. I hope to get to know you all! <<<<

Hi Babette! Wow you are keeping off a bunch of weight already!!! Congrats.
you are already a success.. Happy to meet you and will enjoy sharing the
rest of your weight loss journey!

Hugs,

SueW

267/182/180 (doctor set goal)

Thank you Weight Watchers!!!

http://cheesewhiz. org/sue-compare- jan2007-aug2009. jpg

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3.5. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:16 am ((PDT))

Hi Claudia,

I'm a digital Scrapbook designer. More specifically I'm a "designer's
designer" and create commercial use items for designers, photographer,
gamers, etc to use in their creations. However, I also do some personal
use designs as well. Of course, regular scrapers also purchase my designs
to their personal projects. If you're interested you can check my stuff out
in one of my boutiques
<http://www.commercial-use.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_
id=74&zenid=63d911262cab66abf2afbcbdf7566095> HERE. Digital Scrapbooking
is great since you can reuse anything you buy over and over again ... plus
there's no more mess spread out all over the house! lol

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CLAUDIA
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:59 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Babette, what type of "creations" do you do?

Claudia

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
LBCreations
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:54 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Hi Claudia! Thanks for the welcome!! Hey, we can work on our goal
together!! And yes, we will do it - failure just isn't an option! :)

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

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3.6. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "CLAUDIA" clewing1953@sbcglobal.net clewing1953@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:28 am ((PDT))

I thought maybe you were. Off to check out your site. I'm a digital
designer, too, but have been in a slump lately. My blogspot is below.
I'll chat more with you off groups about this.

Claudia

http://classiccreat <http://classiccreationsbyclaudia.blogspot.com/>
ionsbyclaudia.blogspot.com/

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
LBCreations
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:40 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Hi Claudia,

I'm a digital Scrapbook designer. More specifically I'm a "designer's
designer" and create commercial use items for designers, photographer,
gamers, etc to use in their creations. However, I also do some
personal
use designs as well. Of course, regular scrapers also purchase my
designs
to their personal projects. If you're interested you can check my
stuff out
in one of my boutiques
<http://www.commerci
<http://www.commercial-use.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&manufact
urers_> al-use.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_
id=74&zenid=63d911262cab66abf2afbcbdf7566095> HERE. Digital
Scrapbooking
is great since you can reuse anything you buy over and over again ...
plus
there's no more mess spread out all over the house! lol

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From: Serious-Weight-
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CLAUDIA
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:59 PM
To: Serious-Weight- <mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

Babette, what type of "creations" do you do?

Claudia

http://www.myspace. <http://www.myspace.com/clewing> com/clewing

http://facebook. <http://facebook.com/claudia.ewing> com/claudia.ewing

http://groups. <http://groups.myspace.com/claudiasrecipes>
myspace.com/claudiasrecipes

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3.7. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "Pippylngstkng" imonlyhumn@gmail.com pippylngstkg
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:44 am ((PDT))

Whew!

Hugs back,
Deb

From: LBCreations
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:26 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Babette, Newbie Here

This is EXACTLY what I was saying Deb. :)

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/252/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

I thought this was what Babette was saying and I still stand by my reply to
her. Amen Sistah! It is sad and yes......frustrating.

Deb

237/135/137

Kerri

Amen Sistah! It is frustrating, when we are dedicated to living life again.
You want to spread that enthusiasm to all, but ya can't. And a smile back
attcha.

Deb

Hey Deb! Yeah, I was attracted to the "serious" part of the title! So many
people I know seem to just be playing at weight loss and I find it
frustrating. Oh, and thanks for the welcome! *smiles*

Hugs,

Babette

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Hey! I know you! LOL...

Welcome to SWW Babette. This is a terrific group that is "serious" about our
health and the WW program. They are a tremendous help to us to stay OP and
be successful with many successes as incentive. Enjoy your stay!

Hugs, Deb

Hi there!

Hugs,

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4.1. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon - comments
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:14 am ((PDT))

Thanks Melissa ... hey, slow is good - people are more likely to keep the
weight off if it's lost slowly!!

Hugs,

Babette

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
toddlermomof2@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:02 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon -
comments

Thanks Babette, and welcome to this group. It's been slow but at least
I'm keeping it off.
Melissa

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5a. Re: Article: Is Exercise for Weight Loss Really Pointless?
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:16 am ((PDT))

Isn't it sad Nancy? I had exactly the same thoughts as you ... people would
now use this an excuse to continue their unhealthy habits. Journalistic
integrity? Sadly, Not much exists anymore.

Hugs,

Babette

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Miller
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:53 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Article: Is Exercise for Weight Loss
Really Pointless?

I saw that article, and had some immediate reactions to it. First, it was an
attractive cover story. I don't usually read newsmagazines and I picked that
one right up and read the article right away. Masterful choice for a cover!

As I read, I kept wondering on what planet Cloud has been living on all his
life (there's a pun in there somewhere). I don't know what person in their
right mind thinks that exercise burns enough calories to make a dent in
weight, unless you also change your dietary habits. Look, you're at the gym,
on the fancy treadmill or stairstepper or elliptical or stationary bike.
They all tell you how many calories you've burned. 50... 100... 500? Anyone
can tell you how many calories are in a can of soda and a bag of chips.
250+, and that's if the chips are baked. So who can ever use one of those
machines and think it's making up for a huge slice of chocolate layer cake,
or a single Big Mac? It doesn't add up and never has. I don't know why Cloud
didn't realize that until now. Is he THAT bad at simple arithmetic?

Exercise is sooooooo beneficial. When I've lost weight in previous attempts,
every time I was somewhat successful I was exercising regularly. When I
stopped exercising (and stopped being aware of what I ate), I gained weight.
So if it's not "burning calories" that's important, it has to be something
else. Personally, I think it is a combination of building lean muscle and
reducing depression and anxiety. But when I've lost weight before, it's
always required BOTH intake control and exercising. One or the other didn't
cut it. Ever.

I don't know about wanting to eat more after exercise. Except for swimming,
I find a good sweaty workout is an appetite depressant. Maybe I'm weird. (I
could eat a banquet after swimming, that much is true.) Building muscle and
boosting your metabolism, trimming up your "look" and relieving depression,
increasing flexibility, cardiovascular health and respiratory capacity.
What's not to love?

When I read the article in Time, I groaned. Some people will read this and
say, "Studies show I shouldn't exercise." I think Time did such a disservice
in pitching what could have been a great piece in such a sensational,
misleading way. I expected better of them but I guess it's all about
circulation and readership, not about journalistic integrity.

Nancy in Calif.

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From: LBCreations <lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net
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To: LBCreations <lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net
<mailto:lbcreations-designsbybabette%40cox.net> >
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:04:22 AM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Article: Is Exercise for Weight Loss
Really Pointless?

Hi All,

I found this article and thought it had some really good points and I was
glad to see it. I hope that people who read John Cloud's piece don't pay
too much attention ... exercise really is sooo important!

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6a. Re: Stress and Drugs
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:16 am ((PDT))

Hi Laurie!

That's it exactly ... commitment is the MOST important thing we can do for
ourselves!! I'm also glad you have a good doctor - they are hard to find!
I'm sure you're going to reach your goal ... perseverance is the key.

Hugs,

Babette

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Laurie
Goodrich OBrien
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:18 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Stress and Drugs

Babette - In July, instead of diet pills, my doctor "prescribed" our local
hospital's Weight Loss Program when I was feeling there was no way you could
lose the weight on my own (I was hoping he'd give me pills). The program
costs $450 for a four month commitment. He wants to see me at the end of
October to see my progress. I made the appointment for the hospital
program, but they couldn't get me in for a month. In the mean time, I
decide that WW requires just as much a commitment and it was A LOT cheaper.
So, I started going back to WW AGAIN. decided to make the commitment to
THAT. Six weeks later, I'm 14 pounds lighter. I have 50 more pounds to go
and hoping by next summer I'll be almost there.

No matter which route you take, diet pills, WW or another route. The only
way it will work is if you make the commitment. Glad I didn't go with the
pills, it's just one more thing that you have to worry about what is really
going into your body. now they are coming out with possible health problems
with Alli. I think I'll just stick with learning how to eat right, it's a
lot cheaper and a lot healthier in the long run. Glad I have a doctor that
does not give into the medicated way of dieting.

From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
LBCreations
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:45 AM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Re: Stress and Drugs

Hi Kelley,

While I agree with you ... there is also the flip side to that equation. So
many patients go to their doctors demanding a "magic bullet". I have a
friend here who is 5 feet even, 350 pounds and harassed her doctor for 6
months for a diet pill. The doctor finally caved and gave it to her ... for
one month only. Since she's gotten the pill she's not changed her eating
one bit. I'm sure when she goes back and the doctor refuses her the next
prescription it's all going to be the doctor's fault that she doesn't lose
weight!

Hugs,

Babette

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Dittos here from me too - too many doctors just want to give their patients
medications for anything and everything, and sometimes the very best thing
you can do is exercise and eat right. Some foods can be stressors too!

Kelley

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I agree with Lyn.

One thing most people don't understand is that supplements are not
tested nor regulated by the FDA. We think they are safe because a
drugstore sells them, but they may not be. Rarely have there been any
long term studies, and nothing remotely close to the testing that FDA
approval requires.

Exercise is my therapy and stress reliever as well.

Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

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6b. Re: Stress and Drugs
Posted by: "Kelley" kvail@triad.rr.com kelleyvail
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:24 am ((PDT))

Babette,

I completely agree!

Kelley

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Hi Kelley,

Hugs,

Babette

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7a. Re: Sunday weigh in
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:16 am ((PDT))

Hi TW and congratulations on your loss this week!

Hugs,

Babette

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From: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
trw422@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:42 PM
To: Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Sunday weigh in

Hello again everyone. First, let me thank you again for keeping me
accountable even if it is to a web group. I appreciate it and find myself
trying even harder knowing that I "must" weigh in with you guys each week.

Here goes.

150 goal/170.6 last week/167.8 this week.

Thank you again,
TW

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Posted by: "trw422@yahoo.com" trw422@yahoo.com trw422
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:17 am ((PDT))

Have a great week everyone!

Tisha

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9. Article: Preparing your weight loss program
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:17 am ((PDT))

Hi All,

Found this article and thought it made some very good points. Enjoy!

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Understand your motives

Decide how much weight to lose

Decide what diet method to use

Optimize your diet choice

Decide your diet pace

Add an exercise program

Read Article HERE.
<http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=4377&cn=219>

Hugs,

Babette

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10a. Re: Soy Milk Question
Posted by: "chiavettam" chiavettam@yahoo.com chiavettam
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:17 am ((PDT))

I love soy milk. I'd try a small carton and see if you like it. I also like unsweetened almond milk, which comes in chocolate and vanilla, but you have to add splenda or put it in a smoothie.

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10b. Re: Soy Milk Question
Posted by: "Nancy Miller" njhattaway@yahoo.com njhattaway
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:17 am ((PDT))

Hi Faye,

Here are a few comments and suggestions.

1) You lead with tomatoes so I'm going to, too. Do you hate store-bought tomatoes or home-grown tomatoes? The first reaction is normal (grin), the second is a matter of taste. They're completely different. But seriously, it's okay to not like fresh tomatoes. You get lycopene in the stewed, sauced and even catsup.

2) I don't think of chocolate milk as an indulgence, I think of it as being OP, you just have to count it. I drink lactose-free skim milk, and it's quite sweet as it is, so I use a sugar-free chocolate syrup and am trying to get to where I can drink the milk without chocolate (to save the points). The lactose-free stuff just doesn't taste like milk to me.

3) Look for a individual sized package of soy milk and try it out. I don't like it much, but hey, I like tomatoes so you know you can't go by my preferences. :) Make sure the soy milk is calcium fortified.

4) If you are working toward eating a fresh and natural diet, be aware that some soy products may be highly processed and, like corn, is quite likely to be a genetically modified food. That doesn't bother me (or rather, the high processing bothers me a little, and the GMO not at all). At least one major brand of soy milk, Silk, insists on using organic, non-GMO soybeans, so if I were drinking soy milk, I'd look for that brand.

5) Finally, a secret technique: write a company whose products are sold in your area (look for a website address on a product, for Silk it's http://silksoymilk.com), tell them of your hesitation, and I'll bet you they'll send you a coupon to try the product out.

Best,
Nancy in Calif.

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From: Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@gmail.com>
To: Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:49:43 PM
Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Soy Milk Question

Hi everyone!

But maybe someone can help me anyway...

When I'm being good and OP the one indulgance I allow myself is one cup of
chocolate milk every day when I take my meds.

Any thoughts...?

~~~Faye~~~

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10c. Re: Soy Milk Question
Posted by: "gabbybirdsmama" s_scherz@comcast.net gabbybirdsmama
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:17 am ((PDT))

--- In Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com, Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone!
>
> I know it's hard to describe a taste because of course everyone has their
> own taste buds. For instance I *hate* tomatoes unless they are cooked or
> stewed like in a soup and I also like catsup (go figure) but my husband and
> daughter love them.
>
> But maybe someone can help me anyway...
>
> When I'm being good and OP the one indulgance I allow myself is one cup of
> chocolate milk every day when I take my meds.
>
> I noticed when I was getting some other things I needed that chocolate soy
> milk is only 70 calories where even the non fat chocolate milk I normally
> get (Over the Moon) is 150 calories. So I was thinking 1/2 the calories is
> even better but I didn't know if I'd like soy milk. And I didn't want it to
> go to waste if I didn't. Bob (hubby) said I should have got it cuz if it's
> chocolate flavored I probably wouldn't notice what kind of milk it was but I
> wasn't sure.
>
> Any thoughts...?
>
> ~~~Faye~~~
>
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10d. Re: Soy Milk Question
Posted by: "CLAUDIA" clewing1953@sbcglobal.net clewing1953@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:59 am ((PDT))

I agree about tomatoes. Some of the fresh ones are just tasteless. I
have found several that are really good, though. There is one that
Sam's sells, that are smaller tomatoes (larger than cherry, though). I
can't remember the name of them. They come on the stem and they have a
flavor that just makes you want to keep eating and eating them.

Then there are grape tomatoes, and sorry, I can't remember the brand,
and we don't have any on hand. But they come in a round, plastic
container that has like a domed top on them.

Finally, any of the tomatoes that are "on the vine," to me, are better
than the other tomatoes you usually buy in the stores.

We are fortunate right now. We have a farmers' market twice a week,
and also a small, independent grocery store that buys from local
farmers.

As far as soy goes-although still slightly controversial, some doctors
and "experts" on hypothyroidism claim that soy products can take away
from how well the thyroid medication works. I was hitting the soy
pretty heavy when I was starting through menopause, but when I read
that I stopped and felt better after I did. I'm still waiting to hear
if they actually find out if there is a problem with the two, but for
a couple times that I got my medication there was a warning on the
insert about it. However, they have since removed that, so I really
don't know.

Claudia