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1a. Re: Can't drink/eat enough
From: vicstevens
2a. Desparate for help...
From: suomi1988
2b. Re: Desparate for help...
From: vicstevens
2c. Re: Desparate for help...
From: suomi1988
3. (no subject)
From: Shelley Burt
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1a. Re: Can't drink/eat enough
Posted by: "vicstevens" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:41 am ((PDT))
@ Teresa - I do hope you defeat your dehydration issue. Please cheer up because I suspect that as you heal further and become able to eat solid foods in greater quantity, you will 'retain' more water from what you eat and drink, which helps avoid dehydration. I believe that is what happened to me. Your mileage may vary.
ADVICE: ALWAYS carry water with you when you leave your home. I used to keep a case of water bottles in my car, now I use a refillable bottle.
That said, the following 'confession' is NOT advice! I never have been able to get in 64 ozs of water. I track my intake and in one day, I usually have:
- one cup of coffee with breakfast & sometimes another in the afternoon
- I have trouble drinking a 20 oz bottle of water while I exercise (which has daily, starting 2 weeks ago), but I finish it eventually
- 2 cups of herbal tea or tea and a diet 7Up or root beer in between
- a couple times a week I'll have a 5 oz glass of wine either with dinner or afterwards
- a full glass of water before bed.
- I keep water on my nightstand and sometimes take a sip, not always.
- I eat green veggies, tomatoes, lettuce and fruit daily, I suspect I get liquid from those foods.
- If I leave the house, I always take a bottle of water, will drink about half of it, but never finish it.
I have felt comfortable with this intake of fluids, as not all of it is plain water, but on occasion I have felt dehydrated, but never badly enough to be hospitalized.
-Vic
group founder
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "teresa1337" <Teresa1337@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I am struggling to get in my 64 oz of water daily and to eat. I am 18 days out from RNY.
>
> My doctor sent me back to the hospital because he said I was dehydrated and needed an IV.
>
> How do you manage to get in enough water? How do you eat, even just two bites, when you are not hungry?
>
> I am feeling like a failure. I don't know why I can't get the requirements in my body. I have even become lactose intolerant since surgery.
>
> Has anyone else had this trouble?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Teresa
>
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2a. Desparate for help...
Posted by: "suomi1988" no_reply@yahoogroups.com suomi1988
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:40 am ((PDT))
Hello everyone.
>
> I am in desparate need of help and advise. I had gastric bypass
surgery on April 18, 2008. After one year I had lost 108 pounds. I still
have 60 pounds to go before I reach my goal weight. About four months
ago I went through a severe depressive episode. I secluded myself in my
house and pushed my friends away. I didn't want them to know. During
this time my Grandmother become very ill and passed away on July 16,
2009. During this time, I developed an addiction to McDonalds. I go
there at least once a day and order a double cheeseburger, fries and a
Diet Coke. If I go there at night, I order an extra three cheesburgers
to eat in the morning, or in some cases in the middle of the night. I am
so scared. What is happening to me. Both parents have recently mentioned
that they can tell I am gaining weight. Of course when they bring it up,
I am horrified. This is breaking my heart as my parent paid for the
surgery. I used to be so discipled in cooking at least three meals and
measuring out my portion. Back in February I joined Narcotics Anonymous
because I developed an addiction to prescription pain medicine.
Yesterday was my 6 month anniversary for remaining clean. I wish I could
be proud of myself for that accomplishment. But really, it feels like I
have substituted one drug for another.
>
> Thank you for reading this. I need to talk about this with people I
know will understand. I can't let this beat me. I would appreciate any
advice that you all could give me.
>
> Thanks again,
> Stephanie
> suomi1988@.. .
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2b. Re: Desparate for help...
Posted by: "vicstevens" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:21 pm ((PDT))
Hello Stephanie,
I hope you are doing better. Congratulations on your 6 month NA anniversary. That is a MAJOR accomplishment. :)
I can relate to your depression eating as an addiction issue. I would like to give you hope and say that you CAN get beyond it, you can pull through. You are very much worth the effort. Communicating your issues here show you have what it takes to help yourself out of a negative situation.
If you find NA helpful, why not see if you can find an Overeaters Anonymous group, too? Even if you can't, please take each day slowly and try to plan your eating ahead. Listen to your body's reasons for indulging in your McD habit. McDs is giving you comfort, but that comfort is temporary. You need to 'get to the bottom' of your feelings.
If your parents are the understanding type, you might want to share your food issue with them and see if they can work with you to stop the McDs forays. If they are not, perhaps you can bring up the food issue at NA? I know these groups can be very supportive.
I have a friend who continues to go to NA, AA and OA meetings every week, 20 years after starting with them. Please seek out more support in-person with the 12-step programs, it is proven to be very successful and helpful.
My thoughts are with you. Hang in there.
-Vic
group founder
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, suomi1988 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
> >
> > I am in desparate need of help and advise. I had gastric bypass
> surgery on April 18, 2008. After one year I had lost 108 pounds. I still
> have 60 pounds to go before I reach my goal weight. About four months
> ago I went through a severe depressive episode. I secluded myself in my
> house and pushed my friends away. I didn't want them to know. During
> this time my Grandmother become very ill and passed away on July 16,
> 2009. During this time, I developed an addiction to McDonalds. I go
> there at least once a day and order a double cheeseburger, fries and a
> Diet Coke. If I go there at night, I order an extra three cheesburgers
> to eat in the morning, or in some cases in the middle of the night. I am
> so scared. What is happening to me. Both parents have recently mentioned
> that they can tell I am gaining weight. Of course when they bring it up,
> I am horrified. This is breaking my heart as my parent paid for the
> surgery. I used to be so discipled in cooking at least three meals and
> measuring out my portion. Back in February I joined Narcotics Anonymous
> because I developed an addiction to prescription pain medicine.
> Yesterday was my 6 month anniversary for remaining clean. I wish I could
> be proud of myself for that accomplishment. But really, it feels like I
> have substituted one drug for another.
> >
> > Thank you for reading this. I need to talk about this with people I
> know will understand. I can't let this beat me. I would appreciate any
> advice that you all could give me.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Stephanie
> > suomi1988@ .
>
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2c. Re: Desparate for help...
Posted by: "suomi1988" no_reply@yahoogroups.com suomi1988
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:19 pm ((PDT))
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "vicstevens" <afterwls@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Stephanie,
>
> I hope you are doing better. Congratulations on your 6 month NA anniversary. That is a MAJOR accomplishment. :)
>
> I can relate to your depression eating as an addiction issue. I would like to give you hope and say that you CAN get beyond it, you can pull through. You are very much worth the effort. Communicating your issues here show you have what it takes to help yourself out of a negative situation.
>
> If you find NA helpful, why not see if you can find an Overeaters Anonymous group, too? Even if you can't, please take each day slowly and try to plan your eating ahead. Listen to your body's reasons for indulging in your McD habit. McDs is giving you comfort, but that comfort is temporary. You need to 'get to the bottom' of your feelings.
>
> If your parents are the understanding type, you might want to share your food issue with them and see if they can work with you to stop the McDs forays. If they are not, perhaps you can bring up the food issue at NA? I know these groups can be very supportive.
>
> I have a friend who continues to go to NA, AA and OA meetings every week, 20 years after starting with them. Please seek out more support in-person with the 12-step programs, it is proven to be very successful and helpful.
>
> My thoughts are with you. Hang in there.
>
> -Vic
> group founder
>
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, suomi1988 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I am in desparate need of help and advise. I had gastric bypass
> > surgery on April 18, 2008. After one year I had lost 108 pounds. I still
> > have 60 pounds to go before I reach my goal weight. About four months
> > ago I went through a severe depressive episode. I secluded myself in my
> > house and pushed my friends away. I didn't want them to know. During
> > this time my Grandmother become very ill and passed away on July 16,
> > 2009. During this time, I developed an addiction to McDonalds. I go
> > there at least once a day and order a double cheeseburger, fries and a
> > Diet Coke. If I go there at night, I order an extra three cheesburgers
> > to eat in the morning, or in some cases in the middle of the night. I am
> > so scared. What is happening to me. Both parents have recently mentioned
> > that they can tell I am gaining weight. Of course when they bring it up,
> > I am horrified. This is breaking my heart as my parent paid for the
> > surgery. I used to be so discipled in cooking at least three meals and
> > measuring out my portion. Back in February I joined Narcotics Anonymous
> > because I developed an addiction to prescription pain medicine.
> > Yesterday was my 6 month anniversary for remaining clean. I wish I could
> > be proud of myself for that accomplishment. But really, it feels like I
> > have substituted one drug for another.
> > >
> > > Thank you for reading this. I need to talk about this with people I
> > know will understand. I can't let this beat me. I would appreciate any
> > advice that you all could give me.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Stephanie
> > > suomi1988@ .
> >
>
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3. (no subject)
Posted by: "Shelley Burt" sisterwalk@yahoo.com sisterwalk
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:07 pm ((PDT))
Gerri,
Congratulations on your success. As Vic has posted previously for others of us with the same issue. You need to change up your routine both exercise and food to jump start your metabolism again. If you do alot of exercise you might want to take about a three day break. Also you can go back to liquid proteins for about three days and / or do the 5 day pouch test.
http://5daypouchtest.com/
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thoughts and words with the intention to require more from yourself." -Oprah
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