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1a. Re: Stress and Drugs
From: Tory Klementsen
1b. Re: Stress and Drugs
From: Faye Ridpath
2a. Babette, Newbie Here
From: LBCreations
2b. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
From: Faye Ridpath
3a. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
From: Faye Ridpath
3b. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
From: Faye Ridpath
3c. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
From: Faye Ridpath
3d. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
From: Faye Ridpath
4a. Re: Introducing myself
From: Faye Ridpath
4b. Introducing myself
From: SueW
5a. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon - comments
From: Faye Ridpath
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1a. Re: Stress and Drugs
Posted by: "Tory Klementsen" teechur@gmail.com msteechur
Date: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:16 pm ((PDT))
I agree with Lyn.
One thing most people don't understand is that supplements are not
tested nor regulated by the FDA. We think they are safe because a
drugstore sells them, but they may not be. Rarely have there been any
long term studies, and nothing remotely close to the testing that FDA
approval requires.
Exercise is my therapy and stress reliever as well.
Tory Klementsen, MCP A+
IT Educator
Certified Personal Fitness Trainer
www.journey-fitness.com
www.jfrunners.com
www.teechur.com--school website
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:40 PM, listmom_lyn<whisperingwillow@midco.net> wrote:
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> I think that you should talk to your doctor about this and take any advice
> you get on the internet with a grain of salt.
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> I have an anxiety diagnosis now, and I will tell you that when I am in the
> beginning stages of an anxiety attack (panic attack) if I exercise, I can
> make it go away. Exercise helps tremendoulsy with anxiety. I still think
> it's best to talk to your doctor, though. Not every doctor will put you on
> medications, but they can be helpful about which supplements are beneficial.
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> Best wishes, as anxiety is certainly no fun.
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>> Ok, I have a question. Way back about 6 years ago I used to take medicine
>> like zoloft for anxiety, but since I've had Ally (who i s3 1/2) I have been
>> fine, but I've been stressed lately with personal things and work but I
>> don't want to go back on zoloft and I don't think I need it, but I was gonna
>> try to herbal supplement or something like that I can get at Walgreens or
>> CVS. Anyone have any ideas?
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1b. Re: Stress and Drugs
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:36 am ((PDT))
I used to take SamE which is an over the counter medication.
~~~Faye~~~
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> Ok, I have a question. Way back about 6 years ago I used to take medicine
> like zoloft for anxiety, but since I've had Ally (who i s3 1/2) I have been
> fine, but I've been stressed lately with personal things and work but I
> don't want to go back on zoloft and I don't think I need it, but I was gonna
> try to herbal supplement or something like that I can get at Walgreens or
> CVS. Anyone have any ideas?
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2a. Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "LBCreations" lbcreations-designsbybabette@cox.net queen_babette99
Date: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:23 pm ((PDT))
Hi there!
Just joined and thought I'd say "hi". I'm Babette, 45, and recently joined
WW's AGAIN on 7-25-09. My goal is 160 and I'm going to see the distance!
My start weight this time was 260 ... but my highest all time weight was
411. I'm currently at 252. I hope to get to know you all!
Hugs,
Babette
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2b. Re: Babette, Newbie Here
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:35 am ((PDT))
Hi Babette!
I am pretty sure we are in another group together.
I wish you great success on your weight loss journey!
~~~Faye~~~
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3a. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:37 am ((PDT))
That is great advice, Angela!
Thank you!
~~~Faye~~~
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Angela Townsend <
fearsofafisherman@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> When I fall off the wagon I get my MP3 player and take a walk even if its
> just around my own yard for 45 mins. It will burn off any excess I ate in
> points and makes me feel very proactive. i totally believe in WALKING! its
> works wonders and its free :)
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> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:45:42 -0500
> Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
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> You pretty much hit all your problems on the head, Faye. Recognizing
> the triggers is the first step.
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> My advice to you, though, is STAY AWAY FROM McDONALDS!!!---LOL!!!
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> Glad everything is OK.
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> [mailto:Serious-Weight-Watchers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Faye
> Ridpath
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:03 AM
> To: Faye Ridpath
> Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
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> I fell off the wagon the last few days. Hard! I have eaten:
> 1. One of those new McDonald's Angus Mushroom Melts
> 2. McDonald's again- Big Mac value meal!
> 3. Again McDonald's- McSkillet Burrito Meal
> 4. Went too long without eating, was starving, got a Bavarian Cream
> Filled
> Long John at Sweet Bay
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> Hubby had to go out of town on a run. Marcella (9 year old daughter)
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> been coming down with something I think. Her voice is sounding hoarse
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> she says her gums hurt and her throat is sore.
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> Then hubby's van broke down on his way home so I was stressed worrying
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> Earlier this week my dad and I had a difference of opinion and he had
> e-mailed me saying he was going to call me on Tuesday because I'm off
> then.
> But he never called and he hadn't e-mailed so I was stressing worrying
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> was going to quit talking to me over it. But he e-mailed me the other
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> is stressing him out.
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> So that worked out great, hubby made it back and I got right back on
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> Stress=Faye falls off the wagon.
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> Which is bad... We will always have something to stress us, that just
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> So I need to learn how to deal with stress and not ruin all my
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3b. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:38 am ((PDT))
Carol,
It's funny cuz I hadn't had McDonald's in ions but this week it was just
quick and easy with school starting and Bob being out of town.
~~~Faye~~~
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> Donalds is a place that is near and dear to your heart...A comfort place
> where they serve food that comforts you when stressed...So what happens when
> you go there? I had a habit of stopping at the drive thru for a soft serve
> my car whold just drive right there on auto pilot....I had to change my
> route...Mac Donalds was TOXIC to my weight loss. We have to decide what is
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3c. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:44 am ((PDT))
Nancy,
I know what you mean about cold food. I used to work at McDonald's for 8
years so you'd think I'd be sick of their food by now. lol But anyway when I
used to work there I would always eat the fries before anything and people
would say "Why are you eating all your fries first?" and I said "Cuz I can't
stand for them to be cold."
~~~Faye~~~
P.S. But I love cold chicken and cold pizza. Funny I'm never tempted to go
eat a pizza when I'm stressed and I love pizza *a lot* more than McDonald's.
I guess cuz you can find pizza in Lean Cuisine and WW Smart ones but I have
yet to find a WW friendly Big Mac. Maybe that's what it is come to think of
it. I have found substitutions for almost all my favorite foods but that
one. I even found low point gyros at Publix. But come to think of it I think
I could make a WW friendly Big Mac even just use a veggie burger and Walden
Farms makes 0 calorie thousand island if I remember right (which is pretty
much what Big Mac Sauce is) and there you go.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Nancy Miller <njhattaway@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Faye & all,
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> I'm still working on an answer for stress. It's one of my major triggers,
> too. The best I can do is say that exercise helps but 1) it's not a panacea
> and 2) sometimes, regardless of what optimistic leaders, MDs and friends
> say, you CAN'T find 30 minutes free in a day.
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> However, here's how I handle fast food. Maybe it will work for you. I tell
> myself I have to refrigerate it for an hour first. Let me tell you, there is
> nothing more disgusting than a cold McDonald's french fry. Having tried one
> (once), when I feel like fast food is the answer I remember that cold, gray,
> tasteless grease stick that's hiding inside a french fry.
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> California already has a chain restaurant nutritional information law, and
> there is a national law in the works. Those nutritional info sheets are eye
> openers. For instance, at Chevy's I learned that the chicken fajitas are a
> lower calorie choice than the portabello/asparagus fajitas. Who knew? I
> would have always assumed the vegetarian choice was a lot better, but no.
> The fast food numbers are enough to make you pause.
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> I also tell myself that advertisements are made by people who think they're
> smarter than I am and who want my money. This works for all sorts of things,
> not only food. Do I need a new cell phone or is it just that the ads make me
> want a new cell phone?
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> Best wishes in dealing with the stress! You're right that it affects all of
> us, but learning to deal with it is my goal this time around and I think
> possibly the greatest lifestyle change we can take away from this
> experience.
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> From: Faye Ridpath <ispgypsy@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:03:10 PM
> Subject: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
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> Which is bad... We will always have something to stress us, that just comes
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3d. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:45 am ((PDT))
Deb,
Well hopefully the fact that when I bought some clothes at Wal-Mart and
could fit into a size... Medium! :-), anyway hopefully that will inspire me
to stay on track so I can stay that size and not go back to the plus sizes.
~~~Faye~~~
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Pippylngstkng <imonlyhumn@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have to decide what is more important the instant gratification with all
> the negative feelings afterward or the weight loss....
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> Exactly! You want a slogan.......there is one for you. Not to mention that
> you say that you are struggling with bills right now Faye. McDonald's is NOT
> cheap! Perhaps you and your DD could learn to cook some healthier, cost
> friendly meals together instead of the tempting McD's. My Granddaughters get
> a huge kick out of helping make even salads. I'm sure she would too and you
> would be helping each other out.
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> Deb
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> From: Carol Kumer
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:25 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Serious-Weight-Watchers] Stressed- Fell off the Wagon
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> Donalds is a place that is near and dear to your heart...A comfort place
> where they serve food that comforts you when stressed...So what happens when
> you go there? I had a habit of stopping at the drive thru for a soft serve
> my car whold just drive right there on auto pilot....I had to change my
> route...Mac Donalds was TOXIC to my weight loss. We have to decide what is
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4a. Re: Introducing myself
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:08 am ((PDT))
Welcome Nancy!
A good leader makes all the difference. Years ago I had thought of joining
WW so I stopped by a meeting to ask questions and the receptionist was so
rude I just left. I was totally turned off. But tried again and now I am a
happy WW member.
~~~Faye~~~
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Nancy Miller <njhattaway@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi, all. My name is Nancy, I'm from California, and I just started WW for
> the third or fourth time. My memory is shot, but I think there was a time
> way back when. My last go-round was about 2000 or so; I lost 35# and got
> overwhelmed by stressors in my life and just had a melt-down. I also kept
> having negative reactions to my leader. I don't know if they were projecting
> from my frustration or if she really is insensitive, etc, but it did keep me
> from returning for almost a decade.
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> Over the past two years, I've made some changes that I wanted in place
> before I started WW again. I saw a psychologist for the better part of a
> year (and the better part of $5000). I never had the re$ource$ to do that
> before and I realize it is not something everyone can afford, but I will say
> that I'm a different person for the experience. She knows that at some point
> she may get a call from me; if I start to melt down again that's my
> fall-back plan.
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> I also joined a health club and have tried to get into a regular schedule
> there. I start, then the semester starts (I'm a college instructor), then
> the semester gets hairy, then I fall off at the gym. But I keep going back,
> which is good.
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> Finally, last week I rejoined Weight Watchers. I'm not all starry-eyed and
> enthusiastic this time around. I think that doesn't help you get through the
> plateaus and frustrating weeks, which I know are in the future. Funny that I
> think about those and not about the good weeks (the psychologist would make
> hummy noises at this point and wait for me to "get" it). My mood at the
> start is more cautiously optimistic, with a good dose of dogged
> determination.
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> On my last attempts, I lost 30 or 35 pounds, then had difficulties and
> quit, so I know that will be a time when I have to be careful and surround
> myself with support and optimism. I've made some other changes: I chose a
> different leader, one recommended by my MD who is also in WW. I signed up
> for the Monthly Pass, which includes e-Tools. The online component was a
> must-have for me as I dislike little paper tracking booklets with a passion.
> It's fun tracking online, though. It's really easy to look up foods or enter
> your own, and occasionally you find little glitches that are hilarious, such
> as they count 10 minutes of savasana as 1 activity point. For those who
> don't know, that's a yoga pose where you lie on the mat in total relaxation.
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> know you all!
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4b. Introducing myself
Posted by: "SueW" gswidemark@cox.net gswidemark
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:32 am ((PDT))
Welcome, Nancy!
You know. there has got to be a successful time and maybe it's now. This is
my 4th time on WW not counting all the other diet attempts. and guess what
so far so good.. I'm really close to goal!!! The Momentum program is the
greatest ever. You can do it!!! Be patient and think of it as a lifestyle
change. Set your goal with your doctor and be reasonable. (let's face it
although we'd all love to be 135 or something like that, wouldn't it feel
good to be 150 or even 160 or more). And heck if you go below goal, soon as
you hit goal and keep it for 6 weeks, you don't pay for meetings anymore as
long as you stay at goal. I'm 64 gonna be 65 in 3 months so I've got a
history of failed diets. you can do it because I'm doing it and if *I* can
do it anyone can. hehe
SueW
267/182/180 (doctor set goal)
Thank you Weight Watchers!!!
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5a. Re: Stressed- Fell off the Wagon - comments
Posted by: "Faye Ridpath" ispgypsy@gmail.com fayefromtampa
Date: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:11 am ((PDT))
Thank you for taking the time to write this, Barbara.
Well it's funny you said that cuz really- me personally if I'm going to eat
something outside the home I really really crave Subway the most. And that
is not harmful at all depending how you order it. For instance you can have
any of their sandwiches as a salad, and many of the 6 inch subs can be had
for very low points too.
But... Marcella was begging for chicken nuggets at McDonald's. I was going
to just get a side salad with the lite Italian and a fruit and yogurt
parfait than I saw those new angus burgers and had to try one. Which was bad
on two counts one it just isn't good at all for the WW plan and two as
someone in either this group or one of the other Yahoo WW groups I'm in
gently pointed out to me, if I'm trying to save money (bills are a month
behind) why am I going to McDonald's? She was nice about it and she's right.
I mean I have cut expenses so many other places. Like for instance I was in
Booksfree(that is exactly like Netflix but for books) then said why am I
spending money on that when I can just get books at the library? But yet
I'll plop down money on a $5 burger? At least the books weren't hurting me
just costing us money. Then the day I got the Big Mac I was probably
homesick because of my dad being out of touch and if you get a Big Mac but
ask them to make it with tartar sauce instead of the special sauce then it
reminds me of a Big Boy.
But I am happy to report... Hubby is home but we are still stressed because
his van is barely functioning right now and my car hasn't been much better
so there is the added stress of worrying about what to do it one or both
vehicles goes out. If one goes out, that's inconveniant cuz he would have to
take me to and from work but if both go out that will be bad! But despite
this, no McDonald's the last few days. I have eaten nothing but good food
now despite still being stressed. So I've made positive strides.
It helped when I went to Wal-Mart and saw PJ's that totally caught my eye
cuz they featured my favorite things- Eeyore and purple! So I have been plus
size but have been getting remarks that my clothes are looking baggy lately
so I took in a large and just for kicks a medium to try and the medium fit!!
:-) So I said to my reflection (not out loud cuz I was in a Wal-Mart
dressing room lol) "Do you want to be able to keep fitting in a medium? Then
cut it out with the McDonald's" lol I mean it's ok once in awhile if one has
spare points but not all the time like I started doing this week.
~~~Faye~~~
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, agilitydogs2000 <agilitydogs2000@yahoo.com
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> > I fell off the wagon the last few days. Hard! I have eaten:
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> Oh, Faye, here's a hug. Sounds like you've had a touch couple of days and
> glad you made it through okay. Here's a few thoughts for you to mull over.
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> > 1. One of those new McDonald's Angus Mushroom Melts
> > 2. McDonald's again- Big Mac value meal!
> > 3. Again McDonald's- McSkillet Burrito Meal
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> Okay, I'm a big fan of McDonald's and can't imagine my life without ever
> eating there again. One of the things about McDonalds - you can usually
> find one and they're consistent with what they do, so you're not at the
> mercy of eating on the road. And I'm not going to say you should jsut get
> the salad or a yogurt parfait or the grilled chicken - sometimes only red
> meat does it for me.
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> But I recall eating there with a friend once - and now is a time to examine
> your McDonald's visits. Are they like mine? They're pretty fast,
> consistent, a reliable offering? And they are pretty clean - my relatives
> say I stop at every McDonald's on the way somewhere but usually I use their
> bathrooms - usually clean, location pretty much the same so you don't wander
> around an have to ask.
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> And they have small children there in the playground, families eating
> together, not a haven for couples who are courting or older couples or
> professionals - pretty much a cross section of our life.
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> Maybe it's just the food. Why McDonald's? Why not Burger King or
> Wendy's or Subway? What makes McDonald's resonate for you? Maybe your
> daughter wanted to go there?
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> Which started my story - was eating there with a friend, hose daughter
> wanted to play on the playground. A kid's meal for the daughter and my
> friend and I just talking. Daughter wanted to play on the playground, my
> friend said you have to eat more before you can - my thoughts were that it's
> a pretty terrible thing to want your kid to eat when they're not hungry,
> followed by the thought that McDonald's has it probably figured to a ounce
> how much a normal person eats to get full and offers just a little more -
> make you feel you've gotten a good deal, don't leave hungry, don't feel you
> had a LOT too much.
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> That also means you get more than you really need. So here are two
> challenges for you. You see I practice going to McDonald's a lot and not
> getting anything - it started with my road trips and convenient bathrooms.
> And then became just picking up their fruit and yogurt plates for my mother
> and really giving them to her - and not eating them myself. But I
> seriously want you to think about McDonald's and next time you pass one,
> just walk in the door, maybe look at the menu, maybe not, maybe go to the
> bathroom, and walk out. For no other reason than you can.
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> But also, next time you go to mCDonald's realize that they're very good at
> building a culture - they've built a busines being the best at what they do
> - value and a product. Look at their marketing "It could be that third
> pound of 100% Angus Beef. Or maybe it's those rich, sautéed mushrooms. Or
> the tangy Swiss cheese. But chances are, it's everything".
>
> Beef is cheap right now - demand is down 10% over last year and it's not
> hard to buy a pound of really good hamburger - so how can a burger place
> make money? Emphasizing taste combinations and quality meat - Angus - and
> size. They're buying good quality meat and selling their preparation.
> Doesn't mean you have to eat it all, does it?
>
> So appreciate it - it's what you wanted to eat - you accept what they're
> offering? So walk right up to the counter and ask for one of those new
> McDonald's Angus Mushroom Melts - plus a plastic knife. Or one of those
> Big Mac value meals plus a knife. Or one of those ...
>
> You get it. After all, you're not making any committment now - you can
> always eat every bit of it. But then there's that post that pointed out
> McDonald's adds just a little more than you need. So maybe you want to cut
> off a bite or two and offer it to your daughter - or Bob! Maybe you'd be
> just as happy with half of it. I use the excuse of having dogs and usually
> eat half of my burger - I have three dogs and they could eat the whole
> thing.
>
> It's always your choice - not McDonald's - how much a serving size is. So
> how much is your serving size for the burgers? For the Big Mac, I have
> found I'm really happy taking off the center bread and one of the patties-
> maybe I just like the tang of the sauce plus bite of onions and pickles.
>
> Which now brings up your other part of dividing your food - giving some of
> it away or heck throwing it out! Look at what you've cut off - which part
> do you want? It may be you cut off a good piece and want to eat that
> piece. What do you like best about the Angus burgers? Maybe you want
> more onions next time? Or maybe the bread is really a bit much and you
> want more of the meat taste? Do you want to eat the inside of the burgers
> - without the sloping sides? - or the outside with less meat? After all,
> you can eat the whole thing - it's all yours - don't you want to eat the
> best parts first?
>
> So can you go into McDonald's and choose your own serving size? go
> ahead, get whatever you want - just remember that McDonald's just gave you
> more than you will be full on. I never let them decide how hungry I am.
> Are you taking ownership of how hungry you are?
>
> > Then hubby's van broke down on his way home so I was stressed
> > worrying about him.
>
> > But he e-mailed me the other day
> > and said he's sorry he didn't call as promised he had a
> > surprise guest that
> > is stressing him out.
>
> I know nothing about you or your dad, but two things that I'm curious
> about. I'm not even sure you put these two poitns in your post. First
> thing I though was that it can be a problem if skills aren't taught to
> children in a family setting. So right next to how stressed you are about
> various things is that your dad can't even call you because he's stressed!
>
> If you're taught to deal with stress when you're young in a certain manner,
> you have no chocie but to continue the pattern. All very well to know it's
> destructive or not helping, but after all, what else is there? There are
> even pages of how to deal with stress but just reading them is stressful!
> So can you think of someone in your life that manages stress well?
> Honestly, sometimes it seems like everyone we know has some little quirks -
> they go quiet, they blow up over everything else but what they're stressed
> about, they eat, they watch TV, they avoid situations.
>
> But maybe you're stressing about things that you feel are out of your
> control? Bob's travel situation, the daughter's sore throat ... So while
> it seems simple, have you tried to separate out what you can do and what you
> can't do? You can't help Bob get the vehicle fixed, but maybe you can
> think of another way to help - was he stranded and did he maybe need you to
> reserve a room at a motel? Maybe offer to call a friend nearby - or even
> run through a list to find there are no friends nearby. Call his boss?
> What was he worried about - did you ask him - can you take care of
> something for him he coudn't take care of? Your daugher's throat - take
> her temperature? Check her gums? Call a friend for some advice?
> Call the school to find out if anything's been passed around there?
>
> It can lower stress just to identify an action accoiated with the
> situation. It might not help the problem, but it will lower stress - so
> you don't feel helpless and out of control.
>
> And realize that you'll always stress about something. Think if you had
> tons of money and your eating was right on target, everything would be fine?
> Well, you'd still worry bout the people you love, wouldn't you? You want
> to protect them and keep them from harm, do things for them, and you'd still
> stress over not being able to do enough? It's they way helping and caring
> people are.
>
> You could change - live on a deserted island with no friends - or you can
> just apperciate that you do care and wnt the best for them. If you can't
> do something physically - pick up medicine, call a boss, do an errand - you
> can offer what you can emotionally - tell them you're glad they let you
> know, let them know you're there for them, whatever else you can offer.
>
> So when your dad called to let you know he was stressed and couldn't call
> ... I hope you might think, "Well, I come by it naturally, it's the way my
> family has always coped. My father doesn't know any other way so he still
> streses over simple things and lets them get him off track. I want to
> break that cycle and teach my daughter better habits - so I can teach her to
> see patterns and better ways of dealing with stress. Some of them won't
> work. But I'm glad he called to let me know what was going on. And next
> time it happens I'll remember to let him know that I'm glad he called and
> that I'm glad he's thinking about me and sorry to hear he was so stressed by
> his company. Is there any way I could help? Maybe by my example of
> coping, he'll start to learn better ways of coping with stress ... and not
> stress me out as much!"
>
> > So I need to learn how to deal with stress
>
> Even that is a daunting task - there are way too many people who offer a
> blithe, oh, I do this. But what you deal over and how you deal with it
> depends on you. What works for me may not work for you - I love running.
> An aunt has discovered scrapbooking and getting lost in that. Hot baths
> do nothing for me. It's not a sign of weakness to be stressed - or even to
> react to stress. All you want is to identify and change the ways you deal
> with it.
>
> > and not
> > ruin all my progress
> > because of it.
>
> That's a very positive thought! And it might get easier over time but
> never be simple for you. I even thought about adding a part about food
> having power but you've already identified it's your reaction to stress that
> has the power and food is just the mechanism.
>
> Love and kisses and another hug for you.
>
> barbara
> three dogs who love McDonalds, the Bacon Angus my favorite, special sauce
> instead of mustard and catsup, no tomatoes, cut in half ,eating only the
> better half, not wasting my points on the inferior second half
>
>
>
>
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