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1a. Re: Old Habits die hard
From: vicstevens
1b. Re: Old Habits die hard
From: lisar320
2a. Re: Desparate for help...
From: vicstevens
2b. Re: Desparate for help...
From: vicstevens
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1a. Re: Old Habits die hard
Posted by: "vicstevens" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:14 pm ((PDT))
Lisa:
I hate to burst your expectations, but at 10+ years post op (RNY) I still have days when I am actively an overeater. It's not every day, but it happens often. I graze and eat small portions at set meal times, but endeavor to do so wisely. I believe that is my best defense against the 'devil inside' that makes me feel so deprived that I must feed myself almost constantly.
Aside from 'emotional overeating, I theorize that my pouch is what causes me to feel hungry. I just don't feel full very long, it's physically impossible. So, in my opinion, it's something to be dealt with head on.
The good news is, your surgery is an excellent tool for doing fighting back, it gives you a tremendous 'edge' through malabsorption and drastically increased success when you do try to 'diet', much more so than before surgery.
My 2 cents,
-Vic
Florida
1/12/1999
245/143/135
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
> I had my WLS on 3/25/2009 and I'm almost 6 months out. I am losing weight steadily, with a total of 67 lbs to date. As I posted before, I had a new type of WLS using a TOGA device (TOGA is transoral gastroplasty) and they created a pouch by inserting the device through my esophagus.
> In the 1st few months, I struggled with the compulsive overeater "in my head" that told me I could eat like I used to but that wasn't possible as I can only eat 1 cup of food or liquids. I've learned to ignore the overeater and follow a food plan as recommended by the dietician. I noticed a few days ago, that I'm starting to eat more frequently when I'm supposed to eat every 4 hours. My food plan calls for small meals or snacks (4 small meals & 2 snacks) that are high protein & less then 25% fat. I also try to eat less carbs and I exercise daily- at least 20-30 minutes per day.
> Just needed to share these thoughts as I don't want the overeater to take over again. I am thrilled with my progress and looking forward to my 6 month follow-up visit next week with the surgeon & dietician. I've gone from barely fitting into a size 24 to a size 20! I understand that I eat in reaction to feelings, stress and/or just because I love to eat. (I've also been a recovering alcoholic & addict for 21 years, with no relapses). I WILL continue to follow my food plan and exercise daily. (I hurt my left food the other day and I didn't exercise today. It actually felt strange not walking ;-)
> Enjoy the Labor Day Weekend!
> Thanks for listening. I'd be interested in hearing how others quieted the overeater "in their head".
>
> Lisa
> New Jersey
> 3/25/2009
> 260/193/140
>
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1b. Re: Old Habits die hard
Posted by: "lisar320" lisar908@comcast.net lisar320
Date: Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:20 pm ((PDT))
Thanks for your response Vic.
I've been a compulsive overeater all of my life. I used my post just like I'd use sharing in an AA meeting. "Telling on myself" helps me see which behaviors I need to work on. I agree my pouch is a tool & so is this support group.
I shared b/c I was worried that eating more would stretch my pouch & also b/c I found myself falling back into old habits. Since I shared, I find myself more conscious of what I'm eating, when I'm eating, etc. I also increased my protein to 80-100 gms per day and I'm focused on making sure fat content stays below 25%.
Lisa
New Jersey
3/25/2009
260/197/140
--- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "vicstevens" <afterwls@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa:
>
> I hate to burst your expectations, but at 10+ years post op (RNY) I still have days when I am actively an overeater. It's not every day, but it happens often. I graze and eat small portions at set meal times, but endeavor to do so wisely. I believe that is my best defense against the 'devil inside' that makes me feel so deprived that I must feed myself almost constantly.
>
> Aside from 'emotional overeating, I theorize that my pouch is what causes me to feel hungry. I just don't feel full very long, it's physically impossible. So, in my opinion, it's something to be dealt with head on.
>
> The good news is, your surgery is an excellent tool for doing fighting back, it gives you a tremendous 'edge' through malabsorption and drastically increased success when you do try to 'diet', much more so than before surgery.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Vic
> Florida
> 1/12/1999
> 245/143/135
>
>
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, "lisar320" <lisar908@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Friends,
> > I had my WLS on 3/25/2009 and I'm almost 6 months out. I am losing weight steadily, with a total of 67 lbs to date. As I posted before, I had a new type of WLS using a TOGA device (TOGA is transoral gastroplasty) and they created a pouch by inserting the device through my esophagus.
> > In the 1st few months, I struggled with the compulsive overeater "in my head" that told me I could eat like I used to but that wasn't possible as I can only eat 1 cup of food or liquids. I've learned to ignore the overeater and follow a food plan as recommended by the dietician. I noticed a few days ago, that I'm starting to eat more frequently when I'm supposed to eat every 4 hours. My food plan calls for small meals or snacks (4 small meals & 2 snacks) that are high protein & less then 25% fat. I also try to eat less carbs and I exercise daily- at least 20-30 minutes per day.
> > Just needed to share these thoughts as I don't want the overeater to take over again. I am thrilled with my progress and looking forward to my 6 month follow-up visit next week with the surgeon & dietician. I've gone from barely fitting into a size 24 to a size 20! I understand that I eat in reaction to feelings, stress and/or just because I love to eat. (I've also been a recovering alcoholic & addict for 21 years, with no relapses). I WILL continue to follow my food plan and exercise daily. (I hurt my left food the other day and I didn't exercise today. It actually felt strange not walking ;-)
> > Enjoy the Labor Day Weekend!
> > Thanks for listening. I'd be interested in hearing how others quieted the overeater "in their head".
> >
> > Lisa
> > New Jersey
> > 3/25/2009
> > 260/193/140
> >
>
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2a. Re: Desparate for help...
Posted by: "vicstevens" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:27 pm ((PDT))
I believe one thing we all can do in life is be kinder to ourselves, we tend to be overly critical of ourselves. I think that is because we think other people are always thinking critical thoughts about us, and we want to be appreciated in the eyes of others.
What is ironic about that is, most people are busy thinking the same thing, and not being critical and concerned about us. If they verbalize such thinking, they are acting in a defensive manner out of their own lack of self-esteem, too bad for them. They need to work on that.
So we might more often cut ourselves a break when we start thinking we haven't quite met goals we set for ourselves. Does that make sense? What I'm trying to say is be flexible, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.
-Vic :)
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, suomi1988 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your wonderful words Lisa and Vic. And everyone else that has sent me words of encouragement. Unfortunately I had a small relapse last Saturday and had a beer at my cousins wedding. So, even though I am clean, my sobriety is at three!
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2b. Re: Desparate for help...
Posted by: "vicstevens" afterwls@aol.com vicstevens
Date: Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:28 pm ((PDT))
I believe one thing we all can do in life is be kinder to ourselves, we tend to be overly critical of ourselves. I think that is because we think other people are always thinking critical thoughts about us, and we want to be appreciated in the eyes of others.
What is ironic about that is, most people are busy thinking the same thing, and not being critical and concerned about us. If they verbalize such thinking, they are acting in a defensive manner out of their own lack of self-esteem, too bad for them. They need to work on that.
So we might more often cut ourselves a break when we start thinking we haven't quite met goals we set for ourselves. Does that make sense? What I'm trying to say is be flexible, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.
-Vic :)
> --- In afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com, suomi1988 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your wonderful words Lisa and Vic. And everyone else that has sent me words of encouragement. Unfortunately I had a small relapse last Saturday and had a beer at my cousins wedding. So, even though I am clean, my sobriety is at three!
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