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1a. My Angel Is Sick
From: Aura521@aol.com
2a. Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
From: Valana
3a. Re: !RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
From: Valana
4a. Re: Comment on fear of WLS
From: Valana
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1a. My Angel Is Sick
Posted by: "Aura521@aol.com" Aura521@aol.com aura521
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2010 7:26 am ((PST))
Please tell your friend that we are concerned about her and are hoping for
a quick and complete recovery. Complications are scary. She was just doing
something to make her healthy and it has caused more problems. So sorry.
Margaret
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2a. Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
Posted by: "Valana" msvalentine217@yahoo.com msvalentine217
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:27 pm ((PST))
Honestly, it depends on the person. I think if you try to indroduce your body to fat and sugar then yes eventually you would probably be able to tolerate it. However, the struggle to get your stomoach to tolerate it will be a tough one. You would litterally have to ignore the fact that you get sick and yet still eat that fat and sugar crap.
In a sense thats what I did. I enjoy cookies and cake so much that I started off having a couple of bites here and there till my stomach didn't even mind it anymore. However, I knew that when I ate sugary junk food I needed to make sure that I was at home. Whenever I ate foods high in sugar, I would first start getting a headache, then my stomach would literally start beating me up to where I would not be able to move for a while till the food finished digesting. Then once those cookies and cake would digest I found myself running to the bathroom at least 4 or 5 times dumping. Once I finished dumping, then I was back to normally thinking that's why I don't buy cake and cookies. However, after about a week would pass, there I am eating some more cookies and cake. So please don't be like me. I have gained 15 lbs the last 2 months and have started thinking about doing the pouch test to jump start my system again.
To answer your question, depending how much you utilize the tool of the surgery, paying attention to your body, and learning you can keep your body out of the dangers of fat and sugar.
Valana
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From: krsandahl@aol.com <krsandahl@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 6:40 AM
One thing people ask me all the time - I am only 2 mos out, is will you ever be able to eat "normal" again. Now if by normal they mean eating the crap that got me to this point - I hope the answer is no! but that seems to not be the case. Can alot of you who are several years out eat fat and sugar? or is it still bothersome? I like thinking - if I have that I will get sick so lets have this instead. Does that go away?? I know this is a mindset and lifestyle change but I like knowing that fat and sugar will end up making me miserable... .
good luck to everyone!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Valana <msvalentine217@ yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
I just wanted to thank Ruth for reminding me about the Pouch Test. Thanks.
--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@ gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 11:22 AM
I didn't know there was such a thing as a food psychologist . I am like a
crack addict or alcoholic. I can't help myself, and while alcoholic or
addict we could maybe give up the substance we have to eat. When I find
myself beginning to over eat, or worse yet really dig into those carbs. I do
that 5 day Pouch Test. It's really not a test, but rather a way to get back
on track. I only take in liquids for 48 hours, protien shakes, water and
soup. Then I move on to soft protien eggs, cottage cheese, yogurt. I try
and go with out carbs for 4 or 5 days. I know that's not the real diet, but
it works. Everything that I once had comes back. I can only eat small
portions, but the best part is getting sick from fat & sugar. Food is my
friend, and I think it always will be.
Ruth
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Valana <msvalentine217@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I want to first thank Amy for sharing. Honestly I thought I was the only
> one going through falling back on bad habits of over eating and indulging
> into sugary foods. I felt like a failure too and started letting myself
> go. I know I haven't contributed to this support group for sometime now,
> but honestly I was trying to hold down going to work full time and going to
> school full time.
>
> My name is Valana and I had my wls May 2007 324/162/196. At first I did
> everything according to the book for the most part. I think my down fall at
> the beginning was that I lacked on the exercise part of things. However, I
> was pretty good at not over eating and being satisfied when I was full.
> Foods high in fat used to make me stick at the beginning that I wouldn't
> even think about touching fried foods. The only thing sugary foods ever did
> to me was give me headaches, so therefore I learned to take Tylenol when I
> ventured out and had sweets. However now, I noticed that I can intake more
> and more food. I think it's worst now since I'm unemployed and pretty much
> stay at home bored to death. I can't go because then I end up spending
> money when I'm not even making any money, so that depresses me which makes
> me eat even more. So now I feel like a complete failure. Mentally I have
> always been the type of eater that doesn't know how to
> stop eating until I'm stuffed. Therefore, I noticed that I snack more on
> cookies, chips, and candy. Today I found out that I have gained 15 pounds.
> Last month I was 180 lbs and now I'm 195 lbs. Ideally, according to the
> doctor's I'm suppose to be at 162 lbs since I'm 5'8.
>
> Amy, alot of what you had to say really hit home. Although the surgury has
> helped me get the weight off, and yes I do love the attention and being able
> to shop at all the stores versus just a selected few, it never corrected my
> way of thinking or how I feel towards food. I even think pshycologically,
> my mind is even starting to dislike more of the protein foods. I noticed
> lately, if I sit down to eat a meal, I barely get through it. There have
> been times where I take 3 or 4 bits and I feel like I'm going to be sick and
> just don't care for the meal anymore. On the other hand, let the meal be
> based on carbohydrates and vegetables, I sometimes go back for seconds. I
> even get sick off the protein shakes that I used to like. THAT SCARES ME.
> I have gone through too much to just gain the weight back. Not to mention
> loosing my hair because my protein intake is hitting the low side at 30g a
> day.
>
> I think the way to go would be to see a food pshycologist or something.
> However, right now since I'm not working I do not have medical coverage.
> Therefore, yet another dead end.
>
> I would love to hear more stories of what you all are experiencing relating
> to this. Any suggestions of what I should do now would also be apprecitive.
>
> Thanks group
> Valana
>
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_ dfw@sbcglobal. net<givemeabreak_ dfw%40sbcglobal. net>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_ dfw@sbcglobal. net<givemeabreak_ dfw%40sbcglobal. net>
> >
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com<afterweightlosssur gery%40yahoogrou ps.com>
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 2:12 PM
>
>
>
> Hey Ladies,
>
> So good to hear from some people … Well, let's just say that it has and
> still is hard for me. I am still eating crap, I still feel like it is out of
> control at times. The one thing that I can say is that I am working out &
> doing a boot camp 2 days a week here in Dallas ( kicks my butt ) , I started
> to run last week after I did my first 10 k (6.2 miles) at a event in FT.
> Worth TX. I really like to run and it feels great being only 150 lbs from
> 245ish. It's like nothing that I have ever experienced and I know I can do
> it!!! It always was so hard even when I ran a ½ two years ago at 230lbs..
> Ya, know I never weighed before I went to surgery, dang it… yet loosing the
> 110 sometimes feels like I am still 240is at times… the only thing that
> tells the truth is the scales and all the small clothes that fit when I put
> them on and going to any store and being able to find something right away
> that fits, instead of scrolling for those higher number that
> they never had .
>
> I can eat junk and I never feel like I get full, but when I try to eat a
> meal I can only eat my 4-8 oz and I am ok, but it's the sugar that never
> fills me up that way… dang it L I honestly think that it is all emotional,
> you know we spend so much time being overweight, struggling with our
> emotions, boredom and NO self-worth and NO self confidence that it's all too
> easy to let our sub-conscious mind just kick in. I never craved any of the
> things that I crave now after the surgery for 7 months and I wish I could go
> back. However, remember it was a mindset of the journey that we were
> starting. Now that I / we have lost the weight… now what? Ok, I am thin
> now…. I got here, I did it…. congratulations to the smaller sizes the
> attention that we are getting, I can't believe that you lost 100 lbs or
> whatever that magic number is for you and people start talking…. Now
> WHAT????? I am asking myself in this exact moment where I am going with this
> that
> I am sharing with everyone, not sure… Yet I am full in this moment from
> eating some stupid ice-cream dots and I feel like I am sharing how my body
> and feelings are right now…. GRINN
>
> YA know, I reached out this week to a counselor that does weight loss
> counseling and supports people in losing weight, keeping it off and the
> emotions that go along with it all, laid it all out on the line and
> interesting that she called me 15 minutes ago and has agreed to work with me
> until they are approved to take my insurance. I know that I need help…. Even
> with the support group that I can reach out too, it doesn't stop the crazy
> emotions that drive me to EAT CRAPPPP that doesn't support me in my journey
> ~
>
> Some say writing it down works for them, not for me… I could write down
> that I ate the ice-cream and say… ok, I will do better tomorrow. I don't
> want to go back to 245 lbs ever again so I try to focus on one day at a
> time, sometimes it's one minute at a time. The one thing that I do know is
> that If I keep my word to myself with everything that I desire to do and do
> it…. I feel great and keep up the good work and don't mess up, yet the
> minute I mess up… it's on ! It is easy to forget in those moments of
> breakdown, how great I feel about myself and how confident when I go out in
> my hot looking jeans or sexy black dress and heals… it's like it all goes
> out the window… Yes we have to control the "sugar Monster" yet our minds are
> so powerful, that whatever we FOCUS ON THE MOST happens. In the beginning we
> were so focused on loosing the weight that nothing else mattered, right ?
> Well… hummm… how can we continue to "eat healthier
> & healthier every day in supportive ways " Cool new mantra that I just made
> up (close to the one that I have below) now that we have lost the weight so
> that we stay on the right path!!! I scratch my head wondering this as well…
> I guess it's being ok with being / feeling happy & confident in ourselves…J
>
> Yes, I understand that we KNEW that this was a "life changing " experience
> that we were made very clear of when we went to our intakes and some of us
> had to go to psychologist / shrinks / classes… As I did and I knew what I
> was signing up too. HERE IS THE DEAL… for me, I dealt with the weight… yet I
> still haven't dealt with all the emotions that keep me eating and that is
> why I have reached out to a weight management counselor who will support my
> sphyc.. by teaming up and we all working together. Sometimes I think that I
> was given a gift that millions of women can't get or are scared to get … and
> when I abuse it, I am taking away from them. Know what I mean ??
>
> I had just happened to be sitting here feeling like crap and I am excited
> that I saw this email and could share with you… I hope that I didn't lose
> anyone; so sound crazy / lost …maybe some of you understand where I am
> coming from. I wish that the sugar & fat count made me sick…. However I will
> not give up on myself and the success I have made of the weight loss, I will
> keep doing the best that I can and work to just go one day at a time… Just
> one day… Maybe I need to narrow it down to 1 hour or 2 hours at a time… that
> honestly seems easier to me right in this moment… I can put a BIG SMILEY on
> the calendar for that day and a star * for the exercise that I did…. Maybe
> you can too !!
>
> Be proud of your accomplishment and be ok with "what is" 2 mo, 6mo, 1 yr,
> 2, yrs etc… Is small amount of time compared to the YEARS THAT WE CARRIED
> THIS PROTECTION AROUND OUR BODIES… SO BEING OK WITH WHAT IS, IS what I am
> also working on too and I would encourage you to do as well… We have to be
> honor ourselves daily…. HERE IS MY MONTRA…. " I AM SKINNIER & SKINNIER
> EVERYDAY IN HEALTHY WAYS" I have it on my phone as a screen saver ,
> everywhere… I am also working on the 20min rule… Didn't work so well today,
> however… staying conscious in the moment always works for me.
>
> I am really good at supporting & encouraging others, I suck at doing it for
> myself.!!!
>
> "Weight loss Rocks" It's two piece season is what I keep telling myself !!
> J thank you for letting me share!
>
> Let me know where you are too, as we all are on the same journey and are
> not perfect and sharing all our emotions, successes and accomplishments is
> ok… Being vulnerable and sharing what is "true" for each of us, might just
> support others to accomplish their goals ~
>
> With Passion ~
>
> Amy
>
> Wls/ 250 Now … 149ish (pending on the time of day)
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
> Give Me a Break, Personal Errands & Concierge Services
>
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>
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>
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>
> "In a world where the big things have little difference — it's the little
> things that make a big difference."
>
> — Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of AlLee Watkins
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> I had a gastric segmentation in 2000 (very similar to banding - just not
> adjustable).
> I was 301 and lost to 145. I maintained this for about 2 yrs. Then I got
> comfortable and started gaining also hit 30 (I do believe this slows down
> weight loss). The most weight I gained is up to 195. My comfortable weight
> is about 170 (I'm 5'7").
> I was very discouraged when I tried to loss weight the second time and it
> did not come off like after the surgery. Now losing weight is like before
> the surgery. I really have to work at it. I have to watch what I eat, count
> calories, and exercise. After the surgery, it seemed as if the weight just
> fell off ( I really didn't have to put alot of effort into it).
> I still have cravings. I will sometimes overeat. I have all the same issues
> as before but I don't let it get our of hand. I am more aware of my body and
> when I put on weight. I try to make immediate corrections when I start
> gaining.
> I hope this was helpful for the new surgery/weight loss people.
> AlLee
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25>
> 40aol.com> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> From: krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com> >
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 3:08 PM
>
> I am only two months out but very interested in the reponse to this. I too
> am worried about the long term success. I don't want to ever go back to
> where I was....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sara VanMullekom <SaraVanM1@charter. net>
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:42 am
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hi Amy, how are things going,, my story is starting to sound a lot like
> yours. You posted in January the sugar monster and you discovering you can
> eat sugar and fat without dumping. I'm there now too. Surgery was June 25th
> 2009 I have lost all the weight I need to I'm size 4-6 which is great but
> I'm scared I will gain it back. What's going on now. Sara
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Jacobs
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hello everyone - congratulations to everyone on your WLS success! I am
> down 85lbs since I had my SLEEVE ON June 3, 09. It feels good squeezing
> into a size 6-8. Never thought that I would ever be there. I have had some
> challenges over the last month and need to know how you all OR if anyo
> has had this happen to them and HOW THEY / YOU SWONG BACK.
>
> THE bottom line is that I am eating sugar and sweets, I actually went thru
> the Taco Hell drive thru 2 days ago to get a 89c burrito. I only ate some
> of it, because it was all I could eat. (small pouch) It's like that carb
> monster that everyone talks about. Except mine is the sugar monster. My
> big down fall is chocolate and junk- just like it used to be before my
> surgery. I would just eat, board or not board; usually at home though.
> Here is what I haven't done correctly is drink enough water and some days I
> am shy on the protein. It's like I am out of control on some days, and some
> days not.
>
> I HATE that my body / mind discovered that it CAN go over the 10 g of sugar
> & 10 g of Fat with OUT dumping. I feel like I am failing all over again - I
> have been steady at 155 since Nov 24, but no weight loss and no work out- I
> feel like my old self again and this is not what I signed up for - for the
> rest of my life (one day at a time though)
>
> Has anyone went through this and was able to swing back into the game again
> ? I know that I am not alone and I do plan on staying at the weight that I
> am at - would like to lose 10 more .
>
> I know if it's to be, it's up to me. yet I keep struggling and I do have
> this fear of being discovered out there by men and being safe... I have
> been
> single for the last 5 years and was protected by my weight. I know that it
> is also a behavioral thing as well, I know what I know. I just want to know
> that it's ok and it's just a phase. I do 80 g of protein on most
> days.Bullets, Simply Whey and the new Julian Michaels protein shake which
> is
> awesome. I double up on it as it only has 15g of protein, but it rocks !!!
> I find it at Walmart.. Just tired the Pure Whey vanilla and it's great too,
> has 52 g of protein.
>
> Well, thanks for listening.
>
> Wls/ 250 Now 155
>
> Happy New Yea!
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
> Give Me a Break, Personal Errands & Concierge Services
>
> www.givemeabreakcon cierge.com
>
> 214-529-2641
>
> "In a world where the big things have little difference - it's the little
> things that make a big difference."
>
> - Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:afterweight losssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> brightangelhope
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear
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3a. Re: !RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
Posted by: "Valana" msvalentine217@yahoo.com msvalentine217
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:34 pm ((PST))
Wow Amy, I love your post. I know, I hated the how did you do it question. In fact I still get that question and it's been about 2 1/2 years since I had the surgery now. I used to say the same thing you say. "I just watch my sugar and fat intake along with exercising more and drinking more water." However, then they would see me eating a cookie or slice of cake along with the sugary coffee drink and then I would have no way to explain myself. So, to some I just revealed that I had the surgery and I still struggle with certain foods on occasion.
However, I enjoyed reading your post and like your way of thinking. Thanks for sharing.
--- On Mon, 3/8/10, Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_dfw@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_dfw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: !RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:05 AM
Hi…
Ugggggggggggggggggg g…. That comment that people keep asking you… Here is what I learned to say "No, I will never eat "Normal" again" as my normal or your normal is a plate of food and I A M committed to being healthy for the rest of my life and if that means not eating what I used to eat "as in normal" then I will eat the way I want" which is the small amount of food that I am eating. I got this ALL THE TIME…
Here is another one… " How much weight are you going to lose?" This is what I learned to say instead of explaining myself which I am so good at …. I would / still say " A girl will never tell her secrets" and wink at them, then change the subject. People ask me this all the time and it gets so aggravating and I also get Your gonna blow away if you don't quit losing weight…. GREAT thanks ! I am happy with the way I am, thank you for your concern" Because people have made up all this stuff about being too thin or unhealthy, especially those that struggle in their life to lose weight and Misery loves company.
When I go out on dates; when and if I have one… which is scary… as I have been single for years and fear what the will think of me…. I order my fish… and when I eat a little, and they ask… I just tell them that I have recently lost a lot of weight and have shrunk my stomach and it doesn't hold much anymore and I get to take it home and enjoy it for the next day or so. They don't need to know!! Even when people say "Wow" how did you do it…. watched my intake and exercise …. Which is the truth, just because I had surgery… We still have to do the work, Right ??
I ate some crappy sugar this weekend, didn't beat myself up… however I am in my hour by hour this week and eating soft foods so that I can get that smiley face on my calendar today !!
I adore you all, thank you ~
Amy
Amy Jacobs, Owner
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From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of krsandahl@aol. com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:41 AM
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
One thing people ask me all the time - I am only 2 mos out, is will you ever be able to eat "normal" again. Now if by normal they mean eating the crap that got me to this point - I hope the answer is no! but that seems to not be the case. Can alot of you who are several years out eat fat and sugar? or is it still bothersome? I like thinking - if I have that I will get sick so lets have this instead. Does that go away?? I know this is a mindset and lifestyle change but I like knowing that fat and sugar will end up making me miserable... .
good luck to everyone!!
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From: Valana <msvalentine217@ yahoo.com <mailto:msvalentine 217%40yahoo. com> >
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
I just wanted to thank Ruth for reminding me about the Pouch Test. Thanks.
--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@ gmail.com <mailto:rmjadegraff %40gmail. com> > wrote:
From: Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@ gmail.com <mailto:rmjadegraff %40gmail. com> >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 11:22 AM
I didn't know there was such a thing as a food psychologist . I am like a
crack addict or alcoholic. I can't help myself, and while alcoholic or
addict we could maybe give up the substance we have to eat. When I find
myself beginning to over eat, or worse yet really dig into those carbs. I do
that 5 day Pouch Test. It's really not a test, but rather a way to get back
on track. I only take in liquids for 48 hours, protien shakes, water and
soup. Then I move on to soft protien eggs, cottage cheese, yogurt. I try
and go with out carbs for 4 or 5 days. I know that's not the real diet, but
it works. Everything that I once had comes back. I can only eat small
portions, but the best part is getting sick from fat & sugar. Food is my
friend, and I think it always will be.
Ruth
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Valana <msvalentine217@ yahoo.com <mailto:msvalentine 217%40yahoo. com> > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I want to first thank Amy for sharing. Honestly I thought I was the only
> one going through falling back on bad habits of over eating and indulging
> into sugary foods. I felt like a failure too and started letting myself
> go. I know I haven't contributed to this support group for sometime now,
> but honestly I was trying to hold down going to work full time and going to
> school full time.
>
> My name is Valana and I had my wls May 2007 324/162/196. At first I did
> everything according to the book for the most part. I think my down fall at
> the beginning was that I lacked on the exercise part of things. However, I
> was pretty good at not over eating and being satisfied when I was full.
> Foods high in fat used to make me stick at the beginning that I wouldn't
> even think about touching fried foods. The only thing sugary foods ever did
> to me was give me headaches, so therefore I learned to take Tylenol when I
> ventured out and had sweets. However now, I noticed that I can intake more
> and more food. I think it's worst now since I'm unemployed and pretty much
> stay at home bored to death. I can't go because then I end up spending
> money when I'm not even making any money, so that depresses me which makes
> me eat even more. So now I feel like a complete failure. Mentally I have
> always been the type of eater that doesn't know how to
> stop eating until I'm stuffed. Therefore, I noticed that I snack more on
> cookies, chips, and candy. Today I found out that I have gained 15 pounds.
> Last month I was 180 lbs and now I'm 195 lbs. Ideally, according to the
> doctor's I'm suppose to be at 162 lbs since I'm 5'8.
>
> Amy, alot of what you had to say really hit home. Although the surgury has
> helped me get the weight off, and yes I do love the attention and being able
> to shop at all the stores versus just a selected few, it never corrected my
> way of thinking or how I feel towards food. I even think pshycologically,
> my mind is even starting to dislike more of the protein foods. I noticed
> lately, if I sit down to eat a meal, I barely get through it. There have
> been times where I take 3 or 4 bits and I feel like I'm going to be sick and
> just don't care for the meal anymore. On the other hand, let the meal be
> based on carbohydrates and vegetables, I sometimes go back for seconds. I
> even get sick off the protein shakes that I used to like. THAT SCARES ME.
> I have gone through too much to just gain the weight back. Not to mention
> loosing my hair because my protein intake is hitting the low side at 30g a
> day.
>
> I think the way to go would be to see a food pshycologist or something.
> However, right now since I'm not working I do not have medical coverage.
> Therefore, yet another dead end.
>
> I would love to hear more stories of what you all are experiencing relating
> to this. Any suggestions of what I should do now would also be apprecitive.
>
> Thanks group
> Valana
>
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_ dfw@sbcglobal. net <mailto:givemeabrea k_dfw%40sbcgloba l.net> <givemeabreak_ dfw%40sbcglobal. net>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_ dfw@sbcglobal. net <mailto:givemeabrea k_dfw%40sbcgloba l.net> <givemeabreak_ dfw%40sbcglobal. net>
> >
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com> <afterweightlosssur gery%40yahoogrou ps.com>
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 2:12 PM
>
>
>
> Hey Ladies,
>
> So good to hear from some people … Well, let's just say that it has and
> still is hard for me. I am still eating crap, I still feel like it is out of
> control at times. The one thing that I can say is that I am working out &
> doing a boot camp 2 days a week here in Dallas ( kicks my butt ) , I started
> to run last week after I did my first 10 k (6.2 miles) at a event in FT.
> Worth TX. I really like to run and it feels great being only 150 lbs from
> 245ish. It's like nothing that I have ever experienced and I know I can do
> it!!! It always was so hard even when I ran a ½ two years ago at 230lbs..
> Ya, know I never weighed before I went to surgery, dang it… yet loosing the
> 110 sometimes feels like I am still 240is at times… the only thing that
> tells the truth is the scales and all the small clothes that fit when I put
> them on and going to any store and being able to find something right away
> that fits, instead of scrolling for those higher number that
> they never had .
>
> I can eat junk and I never feel like I get full, but when I try to eat a
> meal I can only eat my 4-8 oz and I am ok, but it's the sugar that never
> fills me up that way… dang it L I honestly think that it is all emotional,
> you know we spend so much time being overweight, struggling with our
> emotions, boredom and NO self-worth and NO self confidence that it's all too
> easy to let our sub-conscious mind just kick in. I never craved any of the
> things that I crave now after the surgery for 7 months and I wish I could go
> back. However, remember it was a mindset of the journey that we were
> starting. Now that I / we have lost the weight… now what? Ok, I am thin
> now…. I got here, I did it…. congratulations to the smaller sizes the
> attention that we are getting, I can't believe that you lost 100 lbs or
> whatever that magic number is for you and people start talking…. Now
> WHAT????? I am asking myself in this exact moment where I am going with this
> that
> I am sharing with everyone, not sure… Yet I am full in this moment from
> eating some stupid ice-cream dots and I feel like I am sharing how my body
> and feelings are right now…. GRINN
>
> YA know, I reached out this week to a counselor that does weight loss
> counseling and supports people in losing weight, keeping it off and the
> emotions that go along with it all, laid it all out on the line and
> interesting that she called me 15 minutes ago and has agreed to work with me
> until they are approved to take my insurance. I know that I need help…. Even
> with the support group that I can reach out too, it doesn't stop the crazy
> emotions that drive me to EAT CRAPPPP that doesn't support me in my journey
> ~
>
> Some say writing it down works for them, not for me… I could write down
> that I ate the ice-cream and say… ok, I will do better tomorrow. I don't
> want to go back to 245 lbs ever again so I try to focus on one day at a
> time, sometimes it's one minute at a time. The one thing that I do know is
> that If I keep my word to myself with everything that I desire to do and do
> it…. I feel great and keep up the good work and don't mess up, yet the
> minute I mess up… it's on ! It is easy to forget in those moments of
> breakdown, how great I feel about myself and how confident when I go out in
> my hot looking jeans or sexy black dress and heals… it's like it all goes
> out the window… Yes we have to control the "sugar Monster" yet our minds are
> so powerful, that whatever we FOCUS ON THE MOST happens. In the beginning we
> were so focused on loosing the weight that nothing else mattered, right ?
> Well… hummm… how can we continue to "eat healthier
> & healthier every day in supportive ways " Cool new mantra that I just made
> up (close to the one that I have below) now that we have lost the weight so
> that we stay on the right path!!! I scratch my head wondering this as well…
> I guess it's being ok with being / feeling happy & confident in ourselves…J
>
> Yes, I understand that we KNEW that this was a "life changing " experience
> that we were made very clear of when we went to our intakes and some of us
> had to go to psychologist / shrinks / classes… As I did and I knew what I
> was signing up too. HERE IS THE DEAL… for me, I dealt with the weight… yet I
> still haven't dealt with all the emotions that keep me eating and that is
> why I have reached out to a weight management counselor who will support my
> sphyc.. by teaming up and we all working together. Sometimes I think that I
> was given a gift that millions of women can't get or are scared to get … and
> when I abuse it, I am taking away from them. Know what I mean ??
>
> I had just happened to be sitting here feeling like crap and I am excited
> that I saw this email and could share with you… I hope that I didn't lose
> anyone; so sound crazy / lost …maybe some of you understand where I am
> coming from. I wish that the sugar & fat count made me sick…. However I will
> not give up on myself and the success I have made of the weight loss, I will
> keep doing the best that I can and work to just go one day at a time… Just
> one day… Maybe I need to narrow it down to 1 hour or 2 hours at a time… that
> honestly seems easier to me right in this moment… I can put a BIG SMILEY on
> the calendar for that day and a star * for the exercise that I did…. Maybe
> you can too !!
>
> Be proud of your accomplishment and be ok with "what is" 2 mo, 6mo, 1 yr,
> 2, yrs etc… Is small amount of time compared to the YEARS THAT WE CARRIED
> THIS PROTECTION AROUND OUR BODIES… SO BEING OK WITH WHAT IS, IS what I am
> also working on too and I would encourage you to do as well… We have to be
> honor ourselves daily…. HERE IS MY MONTRA…. " I AM SKINNIER & SKINNIER
> EVERYDAY IN HEALTHY WAYS" I have it on my phone as a screen saver ,
> everywhere… I am also working on the 20min rule… Didn't work so well today,
> however… staying conscious in the moment always works for me.
>
> I am really good at supporting & encouraging others, I suck at doing it for
> myself.!!!
>
> "Weight loss Rocks" It's two piece season is what I keep telling myself !!
> J thank you for letting me share!
>
> Let me know where you are too, as we all are on the same journey and are
> not perfect and sharing all our emotions, successes and accomplishments is
> ok… Being vulnerable and sharing what is "true" for each of us, might just
> support others to accomplish their goals ~
>
> With Passion ~
>
> Amy
>
> Wls/ 250 Now … 149ish (pending on the time of day)
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
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> things that make a big difference."
>
> — Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com> ] On Behalf Of AlLee Watkins
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> I had a gastric segmentation in 2000 (very similar to banding - just not
> adjustable).
> I was 301 and lost to 145. I maintained this for about 2 yrs. Then I got
> comfortable and started gaining also hit 30 (I do believe this slows down
> weight loss). The most weight I gained is up to 195. My comfortable weight
> is about 170 (I'm 5'7").
> I was very discouraged when I tried to loss weight the second time and it
> did not come off like after the surgery. Now losing weight is like before
> the surgery. I really have to work at it. I have to watch what I eat, count
> calories, and exercise. After the surgery, it seemed as if the weight just
> fell off ( I really didn't have to put alot of effort into it).
> I still have cravings. I will sometimes overeat. I have all the same issues
> as before but I don't let it get our of hand. I am more aware of my body and
> when I put on weight. I try to make immediate corrections when I start
> gaining.
> I hope this was helpful for the new surgery/weight loss people.
> AlLee
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25>
> 40aol.com> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> From: krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com> >
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweight losssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 3:08 PM
>
> I am only two months out but very interested in the reponse to this. I too
> am worried about the long term success. I don't want to ever go back to
> where I was....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sara VanMullekom <SaraVanM1@charter. net>
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:42 am
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hi Amy, how are things going,, my story is starting to sound a lot like
> yours. You posted in January the sugar monster and you discovering you can
> eat sugar and fat without dumping. I'm there now too. Surgery was June 25th
> 2009 I have lost all the weight I need to I'm size 4-6 which is great but
> I'm scared I will gain it back. What's going on now. Sara
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Jacobs
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hello everyone - congratulations to everyone on your WLS success! I am
> down 85lbs since I had my SLEEVE ON June 3, 09. It feels good squeezing
> into a size 6-8. Never thought that I would ever be there. I have had some
> challenges over the last month and need to know how you all OR if anyo
> has had this happen to them and HOW THEY / YOU SWONG BACK.
>
> THE bottom line is that I am eating sugar and sweets, I actually went thru
> the Taco Hell drive thru 2 days ago to get a 89c burrito. I only ate some
> of it, because it was all I could eat. (small pouch) It's like that carb
> monster that everyone talks about. Except mine is the sugar monster. My
> big down fall is chocolate and junk- just like it used to be before my
> surgery. I would just eat, board or not board; usually at home though.
> Here is what I haven't done correctly is drink enough water and some days I
> am shy on the protein. It's like I am out of control on some days, and some
> days not.
>
> I HATE that my body / mind discovered that it CAN go over the 10 g of sugar
> & 10 g of Fat with OUT dumping. I feel like I am failing all over again - I
> have been steady at 155 since Nov 24, but no weight loss and no work out- I
> feel like my old self again and this is not what I signed up for - for the
> rest of my life (one day at a time though)
>
> Has anyone went through this and was able to swing back into the game again
> ? I know that I am not alone and I do plan on staying at the weight that I
> am at - would like to lose 10 more .
>
> I know if it's to be, it's up to me. yet I keep struggling and I do have
> this fear of being discovered out there by men and being safe... I have
> been
> single for the last 5 years and was protected by my weight. I know that it
> is also a behavioral thing as well, I know what I know. I just want to know
> that it's ok and it's just a phase. I do 80 g of protein on most
> days.Bullets, Simply Whey and the new Julian Michaels protein shake which
> is
> awesome. I double up on it as it only has 15g of protein, but it rocks !!!
> I find it at Walmart.. Just tired the Pure Whey vanilla and it's great too,
> has 52 g of protein.
>
> Well, thanks for listening.
>
> Wls/ 250 Now 155
>
> Happy New Yea!
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
> Give Me a Break, Personal Errands & Concierge Services
>
> www.givemeabreakcon cierge.com
>
> 214-529-2641
>
> "In a world where the big things have little difference - it's the little
> things that make a big difference."
>
> - Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:afterweight losssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> brightangelhope
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear
> of
> WLS
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4a. Re: Comment on fear of WLS
Posted by: "Valana" msvalentine217@yahoo.com msvalentine217
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:44 pm ((PST))
No Jennifer, don't be sorry for the rambling. You never know what you have to say, someone else may need to hear or know that someone else is going through the same thing that they are.
Personally, I hate my extra sagging skin. Now, I feel instead of being uncomfortable over the number of pounds I am, I'm uncomfortable with all my extra skin. Mind you, it's not that much but its there. I hate that summer is coming up, because then I'm going to look weird trying to cover up my arms, legs, and stomach when it's 100 degrees outside. I keep hearing from different people who almost live in the gym that my extra skin, may be dead skin. Therefore, there may not be any way for me to tone dead skin. Ugghhh!!!!
I am single, but still feel unconfident in meeting new mean because they may be grossed out by my extra arm skin, etc.
I've tried Strivictin which is this cream that is suppose to tighten your skin; however, it really didn't do anything for my arms. So now I'm trying to save my money up so that I can hopefully in the next 2 years or so get that surgery that removes the extra skin.
Well, if anyone else has this problem please share.
Valana
--- On Mon, 3/8/10, Jennifer <jenimini@windstream.net> wrote:
From: Jennifer <jenimini@windstream.net>
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 6:03 AM
well it will be two years April 11 and I live in fear everyday...
I was doing good until this winter and I gained 13 pounds...
I started a 8 week Reboot exercise class and have lost 17.25 inches
and gained two pounds LOL
They all say and I KNOW inches are good.. But I live for that number...
I keep thinking this is going to get better but sometimes I wonder...
I love food and I am a emotional eater... I think I will call my doctors
office and make me appointment. ..
I have issues I know I do but shezzz it pisses me off that I let that
bother me and cause me to gain weight...
Stress and Worry are two nasty words and plays havoc on my
way of thinking..
Oh on the thing about going back to drinking shakes only.. I don't
think I can.. really... I get so scared to think of NOT eating.. It was
terrible when I had surgery for the few months I didn't eat.. and I don't
think I can go back to that place..
soooooooo whenever I think about shakes only I get all nervous and eat. lol
SIGH!
This is a battle and a battle for my life....
Also wanted to ask how many of you are single??
Do you feel like a shar pei? All this skin and sagging! UGH!
makes me sick to look at it sometimes that I let myself get
so out of control.. But I guess I was never in control as I was
a heavy child and adult..
Sorry for the rambling...
JenniferKy
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