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1a. Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
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1a. Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
Posted by: "Valana" msvalentine217@yahoo.com msvalentine217
Date: Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:57 am ((PST))
I just wanted to thank Ruth for reminding me about the Pouch Test. Thanks.
--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ruth DeGraff <rmjadegraff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear of WLS
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 11:22 AM
I didn't know there was such a thing as a food psychologist . I am like a
crack addict or alcoholic. I can't help myself, and while alcoholic or
addict we could maybe give up the substance we have to eat. When I find
myself beginning to over eat, or worse yet really dig into those carbs. I do
that 5 day Pouch Test. It's really not a test, but rather a way to get back
on track. I only take in liquids for 48 hours, protien shakes, water and
soup. Then I move on to soft protien eggs, cottage cheese, yogurt. I try
and go with out carbs for 4 or 5 days. I know that's not the real diet, but
it works. Everything that I once had comes back. I can only eat small
portions, but the best part is getting sick from fat & sugar. Food is my
friend, and I think it always will be.
Ruth
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Valana <msvalentine217@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I want to first thank Amy for sharing. Honestly I thought I was the only
> one going through falling back on bad habits of over eating and indulging
> into sugary foods. I felt like a failure too and started letting myself
> go. I know I haven't contributed to this support group for sometime now,
> but honestly I was trying to hold down going to work full time and going to
> school full time.
>
> My name is Valana and I had my wls May 2007 324/162/196. At first I did
> everything according to the book for the most part. I think my down fall at
> the beginning was that I lacked on the exercise part of things. However, I
> was pretty good at not over eating and being satisfied when I was full.
> Foods high in fat used to make me stick at the beginning that I wouldn't
> even think about touching fried foods. The only thing sugary foods ever did
> to me was give me headaches, so therefore I learned to take Tylenol when I
> ventured out and had sweets. However now, I noticed that I can intake more
> and more food. I think it's worst now since I'm unemployed and pretty much
> stay at home bored to death. I can't go because then I end up spending
> money when I'm not even making any money, so that depresses me which makes
> me eat even more. So now I feel like a complete failure. Mentally I have
> always been the type of eater that doesn't know how to
> stop eating until I'm stuffed. Therefore, I noticed that I snack more on
> cookies, chips, and candy. Today I found out that I have gained 15 pounds.
> Last month I was 180 lbs and now I'm 195 lbs. Ideally, according to the
> doctor's I'm suppose to be at 162 lbs since I'm 5'8.
>
> Amy, alot of what you had to say really hit home. Although the surgury has
> helped me get the weight off, and yes I do love the attention and being able
> to shop at all the stores versus just a selected few, it never corrected my
> way of thinking or how I feel towards food. I even think pshycologically,
> my mind is even starting to dislike more of the protein foods. I noticed
> lately, if I sit down to eat a meal, I barely get through it. There have
> been times where I take 3 or 4 bits and I feel like I'm going to be sick and
> just don't care for the meal anymore. On the other hand, let the meal be
> based on carbohydrates and vegetables, I sometimes go back for seconds. I
> even get sick off the protein shakes that I used to like. THAT SCARES ME.
> I have gone through too much to just gain the weight back. Not to mention
> loosing my hair because my protein intake is hitting the low side at 30g a
> day.
>
> I think the way to go would be to see a food pshycologist or something.
> However, right now since I'm not working I do not have medical coverage.
> Therefore, yet another dead end.
>
> I would love to hear more stories of what you all are experiencing relating
> to this. Any suggestions of what I should do now would also be apprecitive.
>
> Thanks group
> Valana
>
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_dfw@sbcglobal.net<givemeabreak_dfw%40sbcglobal.net>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Amy Jacobs <givemeabreak_dfw@sbcglobal.net<givemeabreak_dfw%40sbcglobal.net>
> >
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com<afterweightlosssurgery%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 2:12 PM
>
>
>
> Hey Ladies,
>
> So good to hear from some people … Well, let's just say that it has and
> still is hard for me. I am still eating crap, I still feel like it is out of
> control at times. The one thing that I can say is that I am working out &
> doing a boot camp 2 days a week here in Dallas ( kicks my butt ) , I started
> to run last week after I did my first 10 k (6.2 miles) at a event in FT.
> Worth TX. I really like to run and it feels great being only 150 lbs from
> 245ish. It's like nothing that I have ever experienced and I know I can do
> it!!! It always was so hard even when I ran a ½ two years ago at 230lbs..
> Ya, know I never weighed before I went to surgery, dang it… yet loosing the
> 110 sometimes feels like I am still 240is at times… the only thing that
> tells the truth is the scales and all the small clothes that fit when I put
> them on and going to any store and being able to find something right away
> that fits, instead of scrolling for those higher number that
> they never had .
>
> I can eat junk and I never feel like I get full, but when I try to eat a
> meal I can only eat my 4-8 oz and I am ok, but it's the sugar that never
> fills me up that way… dang it L I honestly think that it is all emotional,
> you know we spend so much time being overweight, struggling with our
> emotions, boredom and NO self-worth and NO self confidence that it's all too
> easy to let our sub-conscious mind just kick in. I never craved any of the
> things that I crave now after the surgery for 7 months and I wish I could go
> back. However, remember it was a mindset of the journey that we were
> starting. Now that I / we have lost the weight… now what? Ok, I am thin
> now…. I got here, I did it…. congratulations to the smaller sizes the
> attention that we are getting, I can't believe that you lost 100 lbs or
> whatever that magic number is for you and people start talking…. Now
> WHAT????? I am asking myself in this exact moment where I am going with this
> that
> I am sharing with everyone, not sure… Yet I am full in this moment from
> eating some stupid ice-cream dots and I feel like I am sharing how my body
> and feelings are right now…. GRINN
>
> YA know, I reached out this week to a counselor that does weight loss
> counseling and supports people in losing weight, keeping it off and the
> emotions that go along with it all, laid it all out on the line and
> interesting that she called me 15 minutes ago and has agreed to work with me
> until they are approved to take my insurance. I know that I need help…. Even
> with the support group that I can reach out too, it doesn't stop the crazy
> emotions that drive me to EAT CRAPPPP that doesn't support me in my journey
> ~
>
> Some say writing it down works for them, not for me… I could write down
> that I ate the ice-cream and say… ok, I will do better tomorrow. I don't
> want to go back to 245 lbs ever again so I try to focus on one day at a
> time, sometimes it's one minute at a time. The one thing that I do know is
> that If I keep my word to myself with everything that I desire to do and do
> it…. I feel great and keep up the good work and don't mess up, yet the
> minute I mess up… it's on ! It is easy to forget in those moments of
> breakdown, how great I feel about myself and how confident when I go out in
> my hot looking jeans or sexy black dress and heals… it's like it all goes
> out the window… Yes we have to control the "sugar Monster" yet our minds are
> so powerful, that whatever we FOCUS ON THE MOST happens. In the beginning we
> were so focused on loosing the weight that nothing else mattered, right ?
> Well… hummm… how can we continue to "eat healthier
> & healthier every day in supportive ways " Cool new mantra that I just made
> up (close to the one that I have below) now that we have lost the weight so
> that we stay on the right path!!! I scratch my head wondering this as well…
> I guess it's being ok with being / feeling happy & confident in ourselves…J
>
> Yes, I understand that we KNEW that this was a "life changing " experience
> that we were made very clear of when we went to our intakes and some of us
> had to go to psychologist / shrinks / classes… As I did and I knew what I
> was signing up too. HERE IS THE DEAL… for me, I dealt with the weight… yet I
> still haven't dealt with all the emotions that keep me eating and that is
> why I have reached out to a weight management counselor who will support my
> sphyc.. by teaming up and we all working together. Sometimes I think that I
> was given a gift that millions of women can't get or are scared to get … and
> when I abuse it, I am taking away from them. Know what I mean ??
>
> I had just happened to be sitting here feeling like crap and I am excited
> that I saw this email and could share with you… I hope that I didn't lose
> anyone; so sound crazy / lost …maybe some of you understand where I am
> coming from. I wish that the sugar & fat count made me sick…. However I will
> not give up on myself and the success I have made of the weight loss, I will
> keep doing the best that I can and work to just go one day at a time… Just
> one day… Maybe I need to narrow it down to 1 hour or 2 hours at a time… that
> honestly seems easier to me right in this moment… I can put a BIG SMILEY on
> the calendar for that day and a star * for the exercise that I did…. Maybe
> you can too !!
>
> Be proud of your accomplishment and be ok with "what is" 2 mo, 6mo, 1 yr,
> 2, yrs etc… Is small amount of time compared to the YEARS THAT WE CARRIED
> THIS PROTECTION AROUND OUR BODIES… SO BEING OK WITH WHAT IS, IS what I am
> also working on too and I would encourage you to do as well… We have to be
> honor ourselves daily…. HERE IS MY MONTRA…. " I AM SKINNIER & SKINNIER
> EVERYDAY IN HEALTHY WAYS" I have it on my phone as a screen saver ,
> everywhere… I am also working on the 20min rule… Didn't work so well today,
> however… staying conscious in the moment always works for me.
>
> I am really good at supporting & encouraging others, I suck at doing it for
> myself.!!!
>
> "Weight loss Rocks" It's two piece season is what I keep telling myself !!
> J thank you for letting me share!
>
> Let me know where you are too, as we all are on the same journey and are
> not perfect and sharing all our emotions, successes and accomplishments is
> ok… Being vulnerable and sharing what is "true" for each of us, might just
> support others to accomplish their goals ~
>
> With Passion ~
>
> Amy
>
> Wls/ 250 Now … 149ish (pending on the time of day)
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
> Give Me a Break, Personal Errands & Concierge Services
>
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>
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>
> 214-529-2641
>
> "In a world where the big things have little difference — it's the little
> things that make a big difference."
>
> — Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AlLee Watkins
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> I had a gastric segmentation in 2000 (very similar to banding - just not
> adjustable).
> I was 301 and lost to 145. I maintained this for about 2 yrs. Then I got
> comfortable and started gaining also hit 30 (I do believe this slows down
> weight loss). The most weight I gained is up to 195. My comfortable weight
> is about 170 (I'm 5'7").
> I was very discouraged when I tried to loss weight the second time and it
> did not come off like after the surgery. Now losing weight is like before
> the surgery. I really have to work at it. I have to watch what I eat, count
> calories, and exercise. After the surgery, it seemed as if the weight just
> fell off ( I really didn't have to put alot of effort into it).
> I still have cravings. I will sometimes overeat. I have all the same issues
> as before but I don't let it get our of hand. I am more aware of my body and
> when I put on weight. I try to make immediate corrections when I start
> gaining.
> I hope this was helpful for the new surgery/weight loss people.
> AlLee
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25>
> 40aol.com> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> From: krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com>
> <krsandahl@aol. com <mailto:krsandahl% <krsandahl%25> 40aol.com> >
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afterweightlosssurgery% 40yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 3:08 PM
>
> I am only two months out but very interested in the reponse to this. I too
> am worried about the long term success. I don't want to ever go back to
> where I was....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sara VanMullekom <SaraVanM1@charter. net>
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:42 am
> Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hi Amy, how are things going,, my story is starting to sound a lot like
> yours. You posted in January the sugar monster and you discovering you can
> eat sugar and fat without dumping. I'm there now too. Surgery was June 25th
> 2009 I have lost all the weight I need to I'm size 4-6 which is great but
> I'm scared I will gain it back. What's going on now. Sara
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Jacobs
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on
> fear of WLS
>
> Hello everyone - congratulations to everyone on your WLS success! I am
> down 85lbs since I had my SLEEVE ON June 3, 09. It feels good squeezing
> into a size 6-8. Never thought that I would ever be there. I have had some
> challenges over the last month and need to know how you all OR if anyo
> has had this happen to them and HOW THEY / YOU SWONG BACK.
>
> THE bottom line is that I am eating sugar and sweets, I actually went thru
> the Taco Hell drive thru 2 days ago to get a 89c burrito. I only ate some
> of it, because it was all I could eat. (small pouch) It's like that carb
> monster that everyone talks about. Except mine is the sugar monster. My
> big down fall is chocolate and junk- just like it used to be before my
> surgery. I would just eat, board or not board; usually at home though.
> Here is what I haven't done correctly is drink enough water and some days I
> am shy on the protein. It's like I am out of control on some days, and some
> days not.
>
> I HATE that my body / mind discovered that it CAN go over the 10 g of sugar
> & 10 g of Fat with OUT dumping. I feel like I am failing all over again - I
> have been steady at 155 since Nov 24, but no weight loss and no work out- I
> feel like my old self again and this is not what I signed up for - for the
> rest of my life (one day at a time though)
>
> Has anyone went through this and was able to swing back into the game again
> ? I know that I am not alone and I do plan on staying at the weight that I
> am at - would like to lose 10 more .
>
> I know if it's to be, it's up to me. yet I keep struggling and I do have
> this fear of being discovered out there by men and being safe... I have
> been
> single for the last 5 years and was protected by my weight. I know that it
> is also a behavioral thing as well, I know what I know. I just want to know
> that it's ok and it's just a phase. I do 80 g of protein on most
> days.Bullets, Simply Whey and the new Julian Michaels protein shake which
> is
> awesome. I double up on it as it only has 15g of protein, but it rocks !!!
> I find it at Walmart.. Just tired the Pure Whey vanilla and it's great too,
> has 52 g of protein.
>
> Well, thanks for listening.
>
> Wls/ 250 Now 155
>
> Happy New Yea!
>
> Amy Jacobs, Owner
>
> Give Me a Break, Personal Errands & Concierge Services
>
> www.givemeabreakcon cierge.com
>
> 214-529-2641
>
> "In a world where the big things have little difference - it's the little
> things that make a big difference."
>
> - Peter Thomson
>
> From: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:afterweight losssurg ery@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> brightangelhope
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: 6 Month Update & comment on fear
> of
> WLS
>
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