Topics in this digest:
1.1. Re: Just a little introduction!
From: Julie Turner
1.2. Re: Just a little introduction!
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com
1.3. plastic surgery after wls
From: Pearson, John
1.4. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: g.dailey@comcast.net
1.5. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: Terri Bailey
1.6. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: Pearson, John
1.7. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: Dorothy M. Rosa Durkee
1.8. Re: Just a little introduction!
From: Kelly
1.9. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: g.dailey@comcast.net
1.10. Re: plastic surgery after wls
From: g.dailey@comcast.net
1.11. Re: Just a little introduction!
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com
2a. Considering surgery questions
From: Julie Turner
2b. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: Karen Cortez
2c. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: Kim Biddle
2d. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
2e. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: Pearson, John
2f. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
2g. Re: Considering surgery questions
From: Dorothy M. Rosa Durkee
3a. going back in a week
From: queen_ramoth_the_dragon
3b. Re: going back in a week
From: TheAgora81@aol.com
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1.1. Re: Just a little introduction!
Posted by: "Julie Turner" turner@turnerboyd.com bigbeauty94040
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:21 am ((PDT))
Hi Judy,
Hearing what you're talking about, I wonder if you should be getting a second opinion regarding the DS from a surgeon who specializes in DS. The reason I say that is (1) many RNY doctors are not as familiar with the DS so they label it as "risky" when in fact it is very doable, and (2) DS is much more effective at *eliminating* diabetes than the RNY (having something to do with the duodenum itself). Also, with the DS, if you do experience low blood sugar post op, you'll be able to take care of it better than with the RNY.
This is such a life-altering procedure that I do hope you prioritize your health enough to get a second opinion. If you tel lme whereabouts you are located, I can give you the name(s) of some experienced DS surgeons.
Julie
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Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com <mailto:Cheeks7514@aol.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Just%20a%20little%20introduction%21> saraamy1985 <http://profiles.yahoo.com/saraamy1985>
Tue Jun 2, 2009 5:46 pm (PDT)
Sorry about the confusion. I am concerned about treating the low blood
sugar post op. I am having the RNY procedure. We talked about the DS but
it was decided that it was too risky. I can't give you all the details
because I'm not sure how to put it. The only reason they are removing the rest
of my stomach is because it is felt that if it stays in I will continue to
have pain etc. I am not worried about dumping.......I figure as long as I
follow their instructions I will be fine. I have rather complex medical
issues. Most of these problems are do to the diabetes.
Judy
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1.2. Re: Just a little introduction!
Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com saraamy1985
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:27 am ((PDT))
Julie
I live in Danville Pa. (Central Pa.) Thanks I am open to most
suggestions.
Judy
PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.
In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:21:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
turner@turnerboyd.com writes:
Hi Judy,
Hearing what you're talking about, I wonder if you should be getting a
second opinion regarding the DS from a surgeon who specializes in DS. The
reason I say that is (1) many RNY doctors are not as familiar with the DS so
they label it as "risky" when in fact it is very doable, and (2) DS is much
more effective at *eliminating* diabetes than the RNY (having something to
do with the duodenum itself). Also, with the DS, if you do experience low
blood sugar post op, you'll be able to take care of it better than with the
RNY.
This is such a life-altering procedure that I do hope you prioritize your
health enough to get a second opinion. If you tel lme whereabouts you are
located, I can give you the name(s) of some experienced DS surgeons.
Julie
Re: Just a little introduction!
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Tue Jun 2, 2009 5:46 pm (PDT)
Sorry about the confusion. I am concerned about treating the low blood
sugar post op. I am having the RNY procedure. We talked about the DS but
it was decided that it was too risky. I can't give you all the details
because I'm not sure how to put it. The only reason they are removing the
rest
of my stomach is because it is felt that if it stays in I will continue to
have pain etc. I am not worried about dumping.....have pain etc. I am not
follow their instructions I will be fine. I have rather complex medical
issues. Most of these problems are do to the diabetes.
Judy
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1.3. plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "Pearson, John" john.pearson@hp.com jp_unwinders
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:34 am ((PDT))
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.4. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "g.dailey@comcast.net" g.dailey@comcast.net gpie3
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:49 am ((PDT))
John,
I have no personal experience with thigh reductions as I was lucky enough to have great elasticity in my leg skin.
I did have an abdominoplasty that removed quite a bit of hanging skin.
Was originally scheduled for a circumferential abdominoplasty, which is a lower body lift, with an incision that encompasses a full 360 degrees.
But the surgeon suggested just a frontal incision and a liposuction of the back.
That change saved me an extra few days of recovery (as well as quite a bit of cash).
Hope this helps a bit,
George Dailey
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:32:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.5. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "Terri Bailey" terri.bailey56@yahoo.com terri.bailey56
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:53 am ((PDT))
Hi George,
How much pain was involved? I think the frontal incision would be much more tolerable than the circumferential abdominoplasty, but I hear it's still intense. I suppose that depends a lot on one's own level of pain tolerance, but on a scale of 1 to 10...
Thanks.
Terri
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From: g.dailey@comcast.net <g.dailey@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 5:49 PM
John,
I have no personal experience with thigh reductions as I was lucky enough to have great elasticity in my leg skin.
I did have an abdominoplasty that removed quite a bit of hanging skin.
Was originally scheduled for a circumferential abdominoplasty, which is a lower body lift, with an incision that encompasses a full 360 degrees.
But the surgeon suggested just a frontal incision and a liposuction of the back.
That change saved me an extra few days of recovery (as well as quite a bit of cash).
Hope this helps a bit,
George Dailey
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@ hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:32:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.6. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "Pearson, John" john.pearson@hp.com jp_unwinders
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:58 am ((PDT))
Also what was the cost?
John Pearson
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From: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:54 PM
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
Hi George,
How much pain was involved? I think the frontal incision would be much more tolerable than the circumferential abdominoplasty, but I hear it's still intense. I suppose that depends a lot on one's own level of pain tolerance, but on a scale of 1 to 10...
Thanks.
Terri
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Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com<mailto:afterweightlosssurgery%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 5:49 PM
John,
I have no personal experience with thigh reductions as I was lucky enough to have great elasticity in my leg skin.
I did have an abdominoplasty that removed quite a bit of hanging skin.
Was originally scheduled for a circumferential abdominoplasty, which is a lower body lift, with an incision that encompasses a full 360 degrees.
But the surgeon suggested just a frontal incision and a liposuction of the back.
That change saved me an extra few days of recovery (as well as quite a bit of cash).
Hope this helps a bit,
George Dailey
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@ hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:32:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.7. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "Dorothy M. Rosa Durkee" branta@cebridge.net branta_canadensis
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 11:42 am ((PDT))
>My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has
>occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery. My wife's inner
>thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
>I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
Yup, me too -- and the batwings and facial wrinkles, too. Still,
better to be almost 100 pounds lighter, and off half of my
prescription meds, and wrinkly than back at 287, with no hope! Still,
I'll be VERY interested to read replies to your message. Thanks for
posting it.
Dorothy
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1.8. Re: Just a little introduction!
Posted by: "Kelly" kdies@verizon.net kellone2
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:24 pm ((PDT))
I wonder how far Danville is from Homer City PA? (Pittsburgh?)
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheeks7514@aol.com
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: Just a little introduction!
Julie
I live in Danville Pa. (Central Pa.) Thanks I am open to most
suggestions.
Judy
PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.
In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:21:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
turner@turnerboyd.com writes:
Hi Judy,
Hearing what you're talking about, I wonder if you should be getting a
second opinion regarding the DS from a surgeon who specializes in DS. The
reason I say that is (1) many RNY doctors are not as familiar with the DS so
they label it as "risky" when in fact it is very doable, and (2) DS is much
more effective at *eliminating* diabetes than the RNY (having something to
do with the duodenum itself). Also, with the DS, if you do experience low
blood sugar post op, you'll be able to take care of it better than with the
RNY.
This is such a life-altering procedure that I do hope you prioritize your
health enough to get a second opinion. If you tel lme whereabouts you are
located, I can give you the name(s) of some experienced DS surgeons.
Julie
Re: Just a little introduction!
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Tue Jun 2, 2009 5:46 pm (PDT)
Sorry about the confusion. I am concerned about treating the low blood
sugar post op. I am having the RNY procedure. We talked about the DS but
it was decided that it was too risky. I can't give you all the details
because I'm not sure how to put it. The only reason they are removing the
rest
of my stomach is because it is felt that if it stays in I will continue to
have pain etc. I am not worried about dumping.....have pain etc. I am not
follow their instructions I will be fine. I have rather complex medical
issues. Most of these problems are do to the diabetes.
Judy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
**************We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld'
diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.
(http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml
cntnew00000007)
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1.9. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "g.dailey@comcast.net" g.dailey@comcast.net gpie3
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:38 pm ((PDT))
Cost for my proceedure was around $4k (out of my pocket). But Insurance picked up the cost of the panniculectomy.
George
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From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:57:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
Also what was the cost?
John Pearson
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From: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com [mailto: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terri Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:54 PM
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
Hi George,
How much pain was involved? I think the frontal incision would be much more tolerable than the circumferential abdominoplasty, but I hear it's still intense. I suppose that depends a lot on one's own level of pain tolerance, but on a scale of 1 to 10...
Thanks.
Terri
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Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com <mailto:afterweightlosssurgery%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 5:49 PM
John,
I have no personal experience with thigh reductions as I was lucky enough to have great elasticity in my leg skin.
I did have an abdominoplasty that removed quite a bit of hanging skin.
Was originally scheduled for a circumferential abdominoplasty, which is a lower body lift, with an incision that encompasses a full 360 degrees.
But the surgeon suggested just a frontal incision and a liposuction of the back.
That change saved me an extra few days of recovery (as well as quite a bit of cash).
Hope this helps a bit,
George Dailey
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@ hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:32:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.10. Re: plastic surgery after wls
Posted by: "g.dailey@comcast.net" g.dailey@comcast.net gpie3
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:49 pm ((PDT))
On a 1-10 scale, I hit 7/8 a few times. My Dr was on top of me as far as pain management.
Actually had a pain pump that automatically administered lydocain directly into my ab muscles.
My biggest issue was sleeping on a recliner. Couldn't lay straight for a while.
Funny story, The Dr gave me 2 prescriptions. One was Oxycontin and the other was a weaker drug.
Both had pretty much the same medical name, very similar. I asked my wife for 2 of the (don't remember the name) weaker pills.
She gave me 2 Oxy-C. About 15 minutes later, I could see her lips moving, but couldn't hear a thing she was saying.
Weirdest feeling ever. (Pain was @ -3 then)
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Bailey" <terri.bailey56@yahoo.com>
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:53:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
Hi George,
How much pain was involved? I think the frontal incision would be much more tolerable than the circumferential abdominoplasty, but I hear it's still intense. I suppose that depends a lot on one's own level of pain tolerance, but on a scale of 1 to 10...
Thanks.
Terri
--- On Wed, 6/3/09, g.dailey@comcast.net < g.dailey@comcast.net > wrote:
From: g.dailey@comcast.net < g.dailey@comcast.net >
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 5:49 PM
John,
I have no personal experience with thigh reductions as I was lucky enough to have great elasticity in my leg skin.
I did have an abdominoplasty that removed quite a bit of hanging skin.
Was originally scheduled for a circumferential abdominoplasty, which is a lower body lift, with an incision that encompasses a full 360 degrees.
But the surgeon suggested just a frontal incision and a liposuction of the back.
That change saved me an extra few days of recovery (as well as quite a bit of cash).
Hope this helps a bit,
George Dailey
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pearson" <john.pearson@ hp.com>
To: afterweightlosssurg ery@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:32:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] plastic surgery after wls
My wife and I are looking into taking the extra skin that has occurred after the surgery off via plastic surgery.
My wife's inner thighs have a lot of extra skin and her stomach is really flabby.
I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.
John Pearson
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1.11. Re: Just a little introduction!
Posted by: "Cheeks7514@aol.com" Cheeks7514@aol.com saraamy1985
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:50 pm ((PDT))
It is about a 5 hour drive.
PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.
In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:25:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kdies@verizon.net writes:
I wonder how far Danville is from Homer City PA? (Pittsburgh?I
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To: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Re: Just a little introduction!
Julie
I live in Danville Pa. (Central Pa.) Thanks I am open to most
suggestions.
Judy
PRAISE God for the Roses. THANK God for the thorns.
In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:21:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_turner@turnerboyd.tur_ (mailto:turner@turnerboyd.com) writes:
Hi Judy,
Hearing what you're talking about, I wonder if you should be getting a
second opinion regarding the DS from a surgeon who specializes in DS. The
reason I say that is (1) many RNY doctors are not as familiar with the DS
so
they label it as "risky" when in fact it is very doable, and (2) DS is
much
more effective at *eliminating* diabetes than the RNY (having something to
do with the duodenum itself). Also, with the DS, if you do experience low
blood sugar post op, you'll be able to take care of it better than with
the
RNY.
This is such a life-altering procedure that I do hope you prioritize your
health enough to get a second opinion. If you tel lme whereabouts you are
located, I can give you the name(s) of some experienced DS surgeons.
Julie
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Sorry about the confusion. I am concerned about treating the low blood
sugar post op. I am having the RNY procedure. We talked about the DS but
it was decided that it was too risky. I can't give you all the details
because I'm not sure how to put it. The only reason they are removing the
rest
of my stomach is because it is felt that if it stays in I will continue to
have pain etc. I am not worried about dumping.....have pain etc. I am not
follow their instructions I will be fine. I have rather complex medical
issues. Most of these problems are do to the diabetes.
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2a. Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "Julie Turner" turner@turnerboyd.com bigbeauty94040
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 10:36 am ((PDT))
Hi Dottie,
A few things to think about:
1. Are you exercising regularly? I ask because regular exercise will both lower HBP and may reduce or eliminate Type II Diabetes (especially the kind we have, which tends to result from insulin resistance, which is treated well by exercise). Exercising would be a *much* healthier way to treat these maladies than weight loss surgery.
2. Medicines for both HBP and diabetes are highly effective without much side effect. You may end up being healthier and living longer taking these meds than by having WLS.
3. WLS can have many adverse effects and can be more dangerous in the long run than diabetes or HBP. About 1% of all people who have WLS die within 30 days and around 4% die within the first year. This compares with less than .5% of morbidly obese people. So your chances of dying within a year from the WLS are far greater (8 times greater) than your chances of dying from being obese in the same time frame.
4. WLS will not necessary cure your diabetes or HBP.
5. Even if your diabetes and HBP go away, you are likely to have a different set of medical problems -- anemia, vitamin deficiencies, dumping (if RNY), severe food restriction (if RNY), etc. These other issues are relatively limited to the WLS population so they are not as well understood as HBP and diabetes and the treatments are less reliable and more inconvenient/painful (can anyone say "iron infusions"?).
Two articles worth reading to help you understand the risks involved can be found at: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/01/bariatric-patient-wants-other-women-to.html and http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/02/when-scares-become-deadly-weighing.html.
To make an educated, informed decision about WLS, you MUST consider these points. If, in light of these risks, you still wish to go ahead, then at least you know what you're getting yourself into.
Cheers,
Julie
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2b. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "Karen Cortez" kikae1@comcast.net kikae1
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 11:26 am ((PDT))
Hi Dottie,
I am 37 now and had RNY 6.5 yrs ago. I was 322 lbs. I have had health issues that may or may not be caused by the surgery. I have been told that people who have the surgery are more prone to kidney stones. I have become a producer. I make stones regularly and I am not taking my calcium because the urologist told me not to. I have also been told that I have hyperparathyroidism (my parathyroid takes calcium from bones and puts it in kidneys). Now this has not been proven but my first hospitalization for the first stone was 2 weeks from the day of surgery and I have never had a stone before. Now, drinking lots of water helps prevent stones, but does not stop them. I know alot of people who would not change a thing for having this surgery but I have been so sick since the surgery that I do not honestly know if I would do it again. Originally I had lost 122 lbs (about 18 months) but, when I got so sick I could not work I gained about 55 lbs back. I know that I have not been utilizing my pouch in a very long time and need to start to take care of myself. As far as the surgery itself, that was fine. No problems with it except I did not listen to the dr and lifted my son too soon and got a hernia in my incision site. But, everyone has a different experience and mine is only mine, others will tell you how wonderful it is to be so much healthier than they were. I would weigh all of the information given to you from here and all other resources to decide what you should do.
Karen Cortez
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From: Cloudwriter40@aol.com
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 11:00:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Considering surgery questions
Hi,
My doctor would like me to have weight loss surgery and is referring me to
the bariatric surgeon next month. I am 5'2" and weigh 230. I've been
working with a nutritionist for 2 years and have lost 24 pounds in that time but
have been stuck for more than 6 months and I am frustrated. I am on meds
for HBP and low thyroid and I was just diagnosed with type II diabetes and
she wants to put me on meds for that too. And I am 48 years old and don't
want more meds.
I am a widowed single mom of 3 daughters, 20, 18 and 16 and they don't want
me to have surgery for fear something will happen to me. And I understand
that as I am scared as well.
So here are my questions:
Has anyone had surgery with adverse after affects?
Is it true you can't eat more than a tablespoon of food for awhile?
And only protein shakes for how long?
Can you never eat anything with sugar or fat in it?
How bad is the skin afterwards?
Is it possible though exercise NOT to have all that excess skin issue?
Thanks a lot!!
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2c. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "Kim Biddle" kimbiddle150@yahoo.com kimbiddle150
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 2:20 am ((PDT))
I was 289 and 5' 4" with horrible asthma and very high blood pressure. During surgery they found and corrected a hernia which cured the asthma but the HBP will not go down. The surgery and weight loss don't cure everything but the risk is well worth it. I can only hope this extends my life. So talk with the kids and take them with you to visit the doctor so they can ask questions.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01:45 am
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
From: Cloudwriter40@aol.com
Subject: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Considering surgery questions
Hi,
My doctor would like me to have weight loss surgery and is referring me to
the bariatric surgeon next month. I am 5'2" and weigh 230. I've been
working with a nutritionist for 2 years and have lost 24 pounds in that time but
have been stuck for more than 6 months and I am frustrated. I am on meds
for HBP and low thyroid and I was just diagnosed with type II diabetes and
she wants to put me on meds for that too. And I am 48 years old and don't
want more meds.
I am a widowed single mom of 3 daughters, 20, 18 and 16 and they don't want
me to have surgery for fear something will happen to me. And I understand
that as I am scared as well.
So here are my questions:
Has anyone had surgery with adverse after affects?
Is it true you can't eat more than a tablespoon of food for awhile?
And only protein shakes for how long?
Can you never eat anything with sugar or fat in it?
How bad is the skin afterwards?
Is it possible though exercise NOT to have all that ex
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2d. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 7:43 am ((PDT))
In a message dated 6/4/2009 5:20:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kimbiddle150@yahoo.com writes:
How bad is the skin afterwards?
Is it possible though exercise NOT to have all that ex
These are both water questions. It depends on how much water and/or fluids
you take in. Taking in around 64oz a day will radically lessen bad skin and
loose skin. My brother in law was 400lbs and drank 2 gallons of water a day
and his skin is tight without wrinkles. It takes discipline to drink that
much. I manage about 40 oz of sugar free orange drink and a few more cups of
coffee a day if I am lucky.
My nutritionist just told me yesterday that if we dont get in enough fluids
that we are at high risk for a TIA or stroke because the heart and brain
needs fluids and its hard for us to get it all in. My left side, arm and leg
and left eye is not acting right and so I have to go to a neurologist to see
if everything is all right. All because of water/fluids. We have to be
vigilant in taking care of ourselves so I am taking the fluid intake more
seriously now. lol
It is far better to have the surgery though, but it will take some getting
used to, is all. I am 3 months out now and at 60lbs lost from 250lbs.
Strangely I am in my same cloths but I went from a size 20 pants to an 18 pants.
Good luck and you need your life back! It is clearly a second chance at
life and its all just beginning for me right now. So I know it is a good thing!
peace lee
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2e. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "Pearson, John" john.pearson@hp.com jp_unwinders
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:07 am ((PDT))
How can you expect someone to drink that much water after surgery? My wife can barely drink a 20oz bottle in one sitting.
Her stomach is so much smaller and can't intake that much water.
John Pearson
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From: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TheAgora81@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:43 AM
To: afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Considering surgery questions
In a message dated 6/4/2009 5:20:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kimbiddle150@yahoo.com<mailto:kimbiddle150%40yahoo.com> writes:
How bad is the skin afterwards?
Is it possible though exercise NOT to have all that ex
These are both water questions. It depends on how much water and/or fluids
you take in. Taking in around 64oz a day will radically lessen bad skin and
loose skin. My brother in law was 400lbs and drank 2 gallons of water a day
and his skin is tight without wrinkles. It takes discipline to drink that
much. I manage about 40 oz of sugar free orange drink and a few more cups of
coffee a day if I am lucky.
My nutritionist just told me yesterday that if we dont get in enough fluids
that we are at high risk for a TIA or stroke because the heart and brain
needs fluids and its hard for us to get it all in. My left side, arm and leg
and left eye is not acting right and so I have to go to a neurologist to see
if everything is all right. All because of water/fluids. We have to be
vigilant in taking care of ourselves so I am taking the fluid intake more
seriously now. lol
It is far better to have the surgery though, but it will take some getting
used to, is all. I am 3 months out now and at 60lbs lost from 250lbs.
Strangely I am in my same cloths but I went from a size 20 pants to an 18 pants.
Good luck and you need your life back! It is clearly a second chance at
life and its all just beginning for me right now. So I know it is a good thing!
peace lee
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2f. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:19 am ((PDT))
I have the same problem. All I can do is take 3 sips every so often. Now I
take a little bigger sip but I try to get in 3 sips often. My water bottle
is constantly with me full of orange sugar free Walmart drink. It comes in
canisters and is very cheap and good tasting too. Now my son drinks it.
good luck
peace lee
How can you expect someone to drink that much water after surgery? My wife
can barely drink a 20oz bottle in one sitting.
Her stomach is so much smaller and can't intake that much water.
John Pearson
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From: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
(mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
(mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of
_TheAgora81@aol.The_ (mailto:TheAgora81@aol.com)
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:43 AM
To: _afterweightlosssurgafterweightlosssaft_
(mailto:afterweightlosssurgery@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: Re: [After Weight Loss Surgery] Considering surgery questions
In a message dated 6/4/2009 5:20:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
_kimbiddle150@kimbiddle_ (mailto:kimbiddle150@yahoo.com)
<mailto:kimbiddle15mailto:kimmai> writes:
How bad is the skin afterwards?
Is it possible though exercise NOT to have all that ex
These are both water questions. It depends on how much water and/or fluids
you take in. Taking in around 64oz a day will radically lessen bad skin and
loose skin. My brother in law was 400lbs and drank 2 gallons of water a day
and his skin is tight without wrinkles. It takes discipline to drink that
much. I manage about 40 oz of sugar free orange drink and a few more cups of
coffee a day if I am lucky.
My nutritionist just told me yesterday that if we dont get in enough fluids
that we are at high risk for a TIA or stroke because the heart and brain
needs fluids and its hard for us to get it all in. My left side, arm and leg
and left eye is not acting right and so I have to go to a neurologist to see
if everything is all right. All because of water/fluids. We have to be
vigilant in taking care of ourselves so I am taking the fluid intake more
seriously now. lol
It is far better to have the surgery though, but it will take some getting
used to, is all. I am 3 months out now and at 60lbs lost from 250lbs.
Strangely I am in my same cloths but I went from a size 20 pants to an 18
pants.
Good luck and you need your life back! It is clearly a second chance at
life and its all just beginning for me right now. So I know it is a good
thing!
peace lee
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2g. Re: Considering surgery questions
Posted by: "Dorothy M. Rosa Durkee" branta@cebridge.net branta_canadensis
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:25 am ((PDT))
>How can you expect someone to drink that much water after surgery?
>My wife can barely drink a 20oz bottle in one sitting.
>Her stomach is so much smaller and can't intake that much water.
Tiny sips, all day long. Water bottle always in hand or nearby.
Nobody should be able to drink a 20-ounce bottle of anything in one
sitting unless that sitting is pretty well stretched out. We can't
chugalug as we used to.
So it's a bottle in the morning, before breakfast; a bottle
mid-morning, before lunch; a bottle mid-afternoon, and then a bit of
water in the evening, but only a bit after 6 p.m. for reasons that
should be obvious to anyone with a middle-aged bladder like mine
<VBG>.
Dorothy
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3a. going back in a week
Posted by: "queen_ramoth_the_dragon" dragonweyr1@yahoo.com queen_ramoth_the_dragon
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 1:02 am ((PDT))
I can't talk for anyone else but a week seems a little soon. The type of surgery is, of course, a factor. I had an open rny with gallbladder removed so I was in the hospital a week and another couple of weeks recovering. Of course, the size you are, is a determining factor too. You should ask your doctor what he recommends, he would be the one with your excuse if you can't go back in a week. Good luck and remember to take advantage of the "honeymoon" period which is about the first 18 months. It's your best friend.
hugs
Ramoth
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3b. Re: going back in a week
Posted by: "TheAgora81@aol.com" TheAgora81@aol.com theagora81
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 7:53 am ((PDT))
Hello Ramoth,
Is it really 18 months? I was told 6 months. Are you that far out and it is
still working for you?
Thanks
peace lee
Good luck and remember to take advantage of the "honeymoon" period which is
about the first 18 months. It's your best friend.
hugs
Ramoth
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